Proton.me adds self-custody Bitcoin wallet feature (proton.me)
from makeasnek@lemmy.ml to privacy@lemmy.ml on 25 Jul 2024 15:22
https://lemmy.ml/post/18390499

For those of you using Proton services to protect your privacy, a new feature is being rolled out which is a self-custody Bitcoin wallet. If you have a proton e-mail address, you can now send and receive Bitcoin automatically. This is in tradition with their long-standing policy of accepting Bitcoin payments for their services.

A few key points to know:

from their blog post:

Early in our journey, we experienced first-hand what it’s like being cut off from the financial system and at the mercy of large banks and institutions — an ordeal that affects millions of people across the globe. In the summer of 2014, as the original Proton Mail crowdfunding campaign was in progress, Proton had a near-death experience when PayPal froze our funds, questioned whether encryption was legal, and whether Proton had government approval to encrypt emails.

Fortunately, in that instance PayPal returned the blocked funds, and Proton was able to start the journey that we’ve been on for the past decade. However, that dangerous moment has always stayed in our minds, and we still keep a proportion of Proton’s financial reserves in Bitcoin.

Having experienced firsthand the unreliability of the traditional financial sector, building Proton Wallet is an important strategic move to make Proton more resilient and independent in the future. By enabling us and the entire Proton community to more easily adopt means of payment that deliver on the promise of financial freedom for all, we better insulate Proton from the risks posed by traditional finance.

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uzi@lemmy.ca on 25 Jul 2024 18:03 next collapse

No, it has proprietary or non-free depndencies. There are other libre bitcoin wallets.

makeasnek@lemmy.ml on 25 Jul 2024 18:16 collapse

Am I missing something? “Like all our services, Proton Wallet is open source so all of our security claims can be checked by the public to enhance security. We have also published the Proton Wallet security model so you can understand how Proton Wallet protects both privacy and security.”

drwho@beehaw.org on 25 Jul 2024 18:35 next collapse

github.com/ProtonWallet/andromeda - “The andromeda libraries aims to provide logical blocks to build a privacy-focused, cross-platform, self-custody Bitcoin and Lightning wallet, integrated in Proton’s ecosystem.”

License: GPLv3

<img alt="" src="https://beehaw.org/pictrs/image/14ecdf1b-1511-4da3-8bc7-1d762a7a31a4.webp">

github.com/ProtonWallet/flutter-app - “Proton Wallet application.”

I see no license here.

uzi@lemmy.ca on 25 Jul 2024 19:32 collapse

Nothing from Proton is available on F-Droid without anti-features. In Settings after turning off all anti-features, do a search for proton and there is no apps listed.

corvus@lemmy.ml on 25 Jul 2024 22:08 collapse

That doesn’t mean it is not FOSS, there are many anti features not related to not being FOSS. Newpipe for example is FOSS but has anti features just because it connects to YouTube which is non free.

uzi@lemmy.ca on 25 Jul 2024 22:23 collapse

Which proves my point. Proton won’t publish their server source code, so I don’t have blind trust in any Proton service, including Protonmail.

For Proton Wallet, there are free/libre wallet alternatives without anti features.

corvus@lemmy.ml on 25 Jul 2024 23:50 collapse

Connecting to a non free site (anti feature) doesn’t mean having proprietary or non free dependencies (being non FOSS), which is what you stated, but OK, you don’t trust proton proprietary services. I assume you don’t see youtube videos for the same reason, any FOSS privacy app or frontend will have that anti feature too.

uzi@lemmy.ca on 26 Jul 2024 00:48 collapse

I don’t view using a FOSS frontend equating to logging into an account on a server running proprietary code. Using NewPipe is one thing, but if it was possible, using NewPipe o login to Google account is another.

For example I refuse to use Proton VPN, I use Riseup VPN because the server for Riseup is open source.

In my own opinion, I believe Protonmail not publishing email server source code and publishing Protonmail app source code is stopping it from having a massively larger popularity.

OpenBSD is proof that security can be achieved through engineering open source code that is standards or protocol compliant and not by depending on proprietary code.

drwho@beehaw.org on 25 Jul 2024 18:36 next collapse

github.com/ProtonWallet/WebClients - “Monorepo hosting the proton web clients.”

License: GPLv3

uzi@lemmy.ca on 25 Jul 2024 20:12 collapse

Yes. Nothing from Proton is available in F-Drioid after disabling anti-features.

iiGxC@slrpnk.net on 25 Jul 2024 18:35 next collapse

Should’ve done monero

delirious_owl@discuss.online on 25 Jul 2024 22:06 collapse

Would people who down voted you say why? I don’t think you know what the downvote button is for

iiGxC@slrpnk.net on 25 Jul 2024 22:18 collapse

I commented a similar sentiment on another thread on proton wallet and got mostly upvotes, people just get wacky with the votes lol slrpnk.net/comment/10012391

shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip on 25 Jul 2024 19:34 next collapse

Not Monero equals not worth it. If you’re still using Bitcoin in today’s world, after all the issues with mixing and the high fees, you’re just crazy.

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