For real, The real question here is why does anyone at Meta have access to users data like that. This is rhetorical.
Willoughby@piefed.world
on 05 Mar 00:40
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One could make a decent bit of $ on “I do not consent” knitted balaclavas on Etsy.
Numinous_Ylem@lemmy.world
on 05 Mar 00:57
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Dont they make glasses that blind cameras with infrared to obscure facial recognition? Im thinking a whole line of accessories (necklaces, earings, hats, etc) that fuck up these glasses ability to record you without consent. Not sure how technically feasible that all is but would love to see something like it to counteract these.
WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world
on 05 Mar 01:08
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I think the problem with mass adoption of that kind of anti surveillance tech is that most people will not trade the convenience of being able to take pictures of themselves for the privacy of other people not being able to take pictures of them. Even if it’s a toggle switch.
Numinous_Ylem@lemmy.world
on 05 Mar 01:20
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I think you’re unfortunately right on that point. There’s probably a higher chance of those types of devices being outlawed than Meta glasses and similar products being outlawed, knowing how our legal systems love to defer to corporations.
Theres also the whole deal with being able to legally film and photograph in a public space, which I support for sure, but this is very much not the same as that when a whole team of people overseas are reviewing everything along with AI analysing it, and with these glasses still operating in not-public spaces. Even the act of having to pull out a phone and physically hold it up to film is a small protection of privacy, because at least others can recognize that that person is filming. The passive always-recording nature of these glasses is truly frightening.
At least they are chunky and kinda stupid looking enough to be recognizable… for now. It will be scary when there are dozens or hundreds of variations that look no different than any style of regular glasses.
Yeah i keep a librewolf instance on my desktop open with tabs for shopping lol
IndigoGollum@lemmy.world
on 05 Mar 03:34
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I wonder what would be the power consumption of a device that sits on your head and emits IR light in all directions until you turn it off, instead of just over your eyes. Similar to how microphone blockers work.
What would jewelry and hats do about cameras?
Numinous_Ylem@lemmy.world
on 05 Mar 06:10
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The idea being that anything near the face emitting enough IR could potentially affect the meta glasses and obscure your face. I think IR LEDs draw less power than red LEDs but dont quote me Im not an engineer.
I think at least some are scams. I would think there are ways to design cameras to mostly mitigate this too. I’m guessing ALPRs have the ability to see license plates at night even though headlights are emitting a large amount of light over a broad spectrum (including IR).
If you’re in public in the US, consent doesn’t matter at all. We need to actively block surveillance, create our own privacy.
Numinous_Ylem@lemmy.world
on 05 Mar 00:44
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Frankly humanity does not need this invention one bit.
It may have legitmately sounded interesting and futuristic to some people a decade ago, but with the way tech companies are trending this type of tech will become an absolute surveillance and privacy nightmare. I mean it aleady is really, but it will get so so much worse.
Regulate and legislate these into oblivion. At the very least tech companies need to be punished financially for trying to speed run dystopia but I fear we’re already sliding down that slope and it’s too late
FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works
on 05 Mar 01:04
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Frankly humanity does not need this invention one bit.
Yah. Unfortunately, we’ve got it though. :( :( :(
People I know, some friends, they are completely oblivious to how much it will surveillance them. Or how much Meta already does, in other ways. “I don’t care, I’m not doing anything wrong”.
Constant surveillance erodes a society. It erodes democracy.
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 05 Mar 19:31
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Half Life 2:
C1: This is how it always starts. First a building, then the whole block.
Get a webcam and place it prominently in their house, when askes tell them they have nothing to hide so youd like to watch. Bonus points for putting in the bedroom or bathroom.
The absolute tone-deafness of not seeing that meta seeing the things is the disturbing part.
Flyberius@hexbear.net
on 05 Mar 01:00
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I’m not surprised they are spying and I’m not surprised that the type of person to buy these things would be doing disturbing shit
Sunsofold@lemmings.world
on 05 Mar 01:15
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Now I’m chuckling at the thought that the view from these glasses is likely to be used for training AI, so you could have a bit of fun just aiming them at the most horrifying but legal porn you can find and plonk them down aimed at the screen while you go do other stuff.
anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml
on 05 Mar 01:41
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Marky Z is watching you pee and calling it “streaming.”
uselessartifact@lemmy.zip
on 05 Mar 16:14
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If you’re recording while you pee, yes. If you’re not recording while you pee, probably still yes.
peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 05 Mar 01:56
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God I wish they’d stop putting cameras in these and just make a nice pair of prescription glasses with good integrated headphones, a heads of display, and some basic touch controls on the stem.
I would genuinely enjoy this for easy listening and maps.
Right? Make a product that a majority of people could find useful and not have any backlash at all…but then again, they’ve never been a product company. They’ve always been a personal information broker.
batterystapled@lemmy.ml
on 05 Mar 06:25
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Even integrated headphones would do.
HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works
on 05 Mar 10:30
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<img alt="" src="https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51x2qsYWeJL._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_.jpg">
my dude
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social
on 05 Mar 11:07
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Okay now take this and make it not look like tacti-cool bullshit that would come with a glock
peanuts4life@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 05 Mar 14:20
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They need someone to review and tag the recorded footage to train AI models.
No moment is private when wearing these glasses. I’m glad they haven’t caught on where I live.
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com
on 05 Mar 06:21
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being sent to offshore contractors for data labeling, a widely-used preprocessing step in training new AI models in which human contractors are asked to review and annotate footage.
From another article I read about this, seems like it involves a lot of drawing precise boxes around people and objects, stuff like that. Terminators gotta learn their sex moves from somewhere.
I actually did data labeling work on amazon mturk for a while, it does kind of suck, the main saving grace was I could largely do it on my own schedule but I assume these people don’t really get that benefit.
In a certain nihilistic dreadful sense it’s hilarious how these AI advancements are built on the backs of exploitative manual labor. On the surface the AI models are so utterly impressive at how “smart” and advanced the tech appears to be, but the truth of it is just slave labor building a catalog of labeled data sourced from mass surveillance. The aliens should really intervene soon, before we build something that can threaten them…
mathemachristian@lemmy.ml
on 05 Mar 09:39
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Read the article??
“You understand that it is someone’s private life you are looking at, but at the same time you are just expected to carry out the work,” the employee said. “You are not supposed to question it. If you start asking questions, you are gone.”
There are other similar ones that have more awareness, but one was focused around New Orleans as there was an incident. I didn’t hear about it. Another is taking about banning at beaches which also make sense so voyeurism isn’t so creepy and make people feel awkward
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world
on 05 Mar 14:03
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FOUR signatures?! Wow, I have never seen so few signatures on a causeworthy well-written petition before 🫨
Orwell got it wrong with the wall mounted screens - ‘they’ want us to wear the screens. What was that album title? 'If you accept this,your kids are next.,
’ Can’t remember which band
WittyProfileName2@hexbear.net
on 05 Mar 10:46
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What was that album title? 'If you accept this,your kids are next., ’
Absolutely. IIRC, the option of turning them off was only available to very high ranking members and even then only for relatively short periods of time.
It’s almost absurd at this point, but i used to be really into gadgets and tech and shit. Now everything i see is like: that’s a spy tool. That’s showing ads. That is an ad. That is just a lie.
Also…if you haven’t seen that movie…go watch it. It’s low-key one of her best.
CrabAndBroom@lemmy.ml
on 05 Mar 17:46
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I know this is off-topic, but Kathryn Bigelow is just an under-rated director in general I think. So many bangers. Also from a quick search I just found out she had a new movie out last year that stars Idris Elba, Rebecca Ferguson and Jared Harris? Somehow I missed that entirely.
HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com
on 06 Mar 20:04
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Oh! In addition too Strange Days she directed the OG Point Break and The Hurt Locker! All great movies!
HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com
on 06 Mar 19:49
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Great 90s cyberpunk movie. Way better than Johnny Mnemonic and Judge Dread.
Also starred the smokin’ hot Angela Basset as a bonus.
I don’t think even George Orwell could have predicted that one day they’d put the cameras inside glasses, it would be common knowledge that they’re in there and the they’re spying on you and everyone you look at, and people would still voluntarily buy them with their own money and wear them around.
lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org
on 05 Mar 22:16
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Just wait until they have brainwave scanners on the sides
into_highest_invite@lemmygrad.ml
on 05 Mar 23:01
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threaded - newest
Here’s the original article: svd.se/…/metas-ai-smart-glasses-and-data-privacy-…
Underrated comment (the article is also already in English).
How long until Meta starts blackmailing people with this shit?
Epstein 2.0
For real, The real question here is why does anyone at Meta have access to users data like that. This is rhetorical.
One could make a decent bit of $ on “I do not consent” knitted balaclavas on Etsy.
Dont they make glasses that blind cameras with infrared to obscure facial recognition? Im thinking a whole line of accessories (necklaces, earings, hats, etc) that fuck up these glasses ability to record you without consent. Not sure how technically feasible that all is but would love to see something like it to counteract these.
I think the problem with mass adoption of that kind of anti surveillance tech is that most people will not trade the convenience of being able to take pictures of themselves for the privacy of other people not being able to take pictures of them. Even if it’s a toggle switch.
I think you’re unfortunately right on that point. There’s probably a higher chance of those types of devices being outlawed than Meta glasses and similar products being outlawed, knowing how our legal systems love to defer to corporations.
Theres also the whole deal with being able to legally film and photograph in a public space, which I support for sure, but this is very much not the same as that when a whole team of people overseas are reviewing everything along with AI analysing it, and with these glasses still operating in not-public spaces. Even the act of having to pull out a phone and physically hold it up to film is a small protection of privacy, because at least others can recognize that that person is filming. The passive always-recording nature of these glasses is truly frightening.
At least they are chunky and kinda stupid looking enough to be recognizable… for now. It will be scary when there are dozens or hundreds of variations that look no different than any style of regular glasses.
Also wearing them identifies you as “a person wearing anti-spyware” glasses.
It’s like not having a Facebook account, your shadow shows everyone you aren’t, leaving the only person you could be.
And? I’m still very thankful to have completely deleted my account and tend to wear a mask in public. Its more about consent than hiding anything
In your defense, they aren’t tracking your every move in pseudo-real time and tracking every app they can get their code into inside your phone.
but dude needs to buy a lawnmower and a tv used every now and then, so the bookmark stays. That shit isn’t on my phone tho.
Yeah i keep a librewolf instance on my desktop open with tabs for shopping lol
I wonder what would be the power consumption of a device that sits on your head and emits IR light in all directions until you turn it off, instead of just over your eyes. Similar to how microphone blockers work.
What would jewelry and hats do about cameras?
The idea being that anything near the face emitting enough IR could potentially affect the meta glasses and obscure your face. I think IR LEDs draw less power than red LEDs but dont quote me Im not an engineer.
hackaday.com/…/using-ir-leds-to-hide-in-plain-sig…
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/732c8ff6-89c4-49df-84e6-2d329a24decf.png">
I think at least some are scams. I would think there are ways to design cameras to mostly mitigate this too. I’m guessing ALPRs have the ability to see license plates at night even though headlights are emitting a large amount of light over a broad spectrum (including IR).
If you’re in public in the US, consent doesn’t matter at all. We need to actively block surveillance, create our own privacy.
Frankly humanity does not need this invention one bit.
It may have legitmately sounded interesting and futuristic to some people a decade ago, but with the way tech companies are trending this type of tech will become an absolute surveillance and privacy nightmare. I mean it aleady is really, but it will get so so much worse.
Regulate and legislate these into oblivion. At the very least tech companies need to be punished financially for trying to speed run dystopia but I fear we’re already sliding down that slope and it’s too late
Yah. Unfortunately, we’ve got it though. :( :( :(
People I know, some friends, they are completely oblivious to how much it will surveillance them. Or how much Meta already does, in other ways. “I don’t care, I’m not doing anything wrong”.
Constant surveillance erodes a society. It erodes democracy.
Half Life 2:
Get a webcam and place it prominently in their house, when askes tell them they have nothing to hide so youd like to watch. Bonus points for putting in the bedroom or bathroom.
Genies out of the bottle now man.
Look forward to an arms race and eventually a cold war. This is our generations nuke.
Would’ve been great tech if they didn’t place fucking cameras into it
Who could have guessed…
The absolute tone-deafness of not seeing that meta seeing the things is the disturbing part.
I’m not surprised they are spying and I’m not surprised that the type of person to buy these things would be doing disturbing shit
Now I’m chuckling at the thought that the view from these glasses is likely to be used for training AI, so you could have a bit of fun just aiming them at the most horrifying but legal porn you can find and plonk them down aimed at the screen while you go do other stuff.
Marky Z is watching you pee and calling it “streaming.”
Chat is this true?
If you’re recording while you pee, yes. If you’re not recording while you pee, probably still yes.
God I wish they’d stop putting cameras in these and just make a nice pair of prescription glasses with good integrated headphones, a heads of display, and some basic touch controls on the stem.
I would genuinely enjoy this for easy listening and maps.
Right? Make a product that a majority of people could find useful and not have any backlash at all…but then again, they’ve never been a product company. They’ve always been a personal information broker.
Even integrated headphones would do.
<img alt="" src="https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/51x2qsYWeJL._AC_UF894,1000_QL80_.jpg"> my dude
Okay now take this and make it not look like tacti-cool bullshit that would come with a glock
😂 girl, I’m not a cop!
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/5eb20414-4cc0-4e17-8d52-02c9b74edf32.png"> Zach Freedman has entered the chat
Where did you get this picture of me 😅😅😅
WHY ARE THEY LOOKING?
Voyeurism.
cause it’s a mechanical turk
They need someone to review and tag the recorded footage to train AI models.
No moment is private when wearing these glasses. I’m glad they haven’t caught on where I live.
From another article I read about this, seems like it involves a lot of drawing precise boxes around people and objects, stuff like that. Terminators gotta learn their sex moves from somewhere.
Oof imaging being employed to do captchas all day.
Beats starvation, tho :/
I actually did data labeling work on amazon mturk for a while, it does kind of suck, the main saving grace was I could largely do it on my own schedule but I assume these people don’t really get that benefit.
In a certain nihilistic dreadful sense it’s hilarious how these AI advancements are built on the backs of exploitative manual labor. On the surface the AI models are so utterly impressive at how “smart” and advanced the tech appears to be, but the truth of it is just slave labor building a catalog of labeled data sourced from mass surveillance. The aliens should really intervene soon, before we build something that can threaten them…
Read the article??
It was a rhetorical question, and directed at Facebook as a collective.
Ahh yes, another reason mark zuckerberg needs to get luigi’d
Oh man! A friend just sent me this earlier today, I completely forgot to sign, but seeing this reminded me! Sharing the love.
c.org/BVqdM4SGS2
That petition is cute, but even if such a law was passed, it would be struck down.
So? Even generating awareness about this nonsense is a +1 to society.
Cute comment tho.
There are other similar ones that have more awareness, but one was focused around New Orleans as there was an incident. I didn’t hear about it. Another is taking about banning at beaches which also make sense so voyeurism isn’t so creepy and make people feel awkward
FOUR signatures?! Wow, I have never seen so few signatures on a causeworthy well-written petition before 🫨
Well, yeah, neither of us are on social media. I need to text a few circles of friends but 5 signatures means it’ll get more promotion out there.
'I have nothing to hide."
/s
Except for the first part of that quote. /s
We get to return to the verbiage “glasshole” right
Tesla was like ‘we could use lidar, but instead we’ll use CAMERAS’
Orwell got it wrong with the wall mounted screens - ‘they’ want us to wear the screens. What was that album title? 'If you accept this,your kids are next., ’ Can’t remember which band
“If You Tolerate This Your Children Will Be Next.” By the Manic Street Preachers.
That’s the one, thanks. Almost got it right!
If you tolerate this, your children will be next. Is a Manic Street Preachers song.
Thanks, almost got it right. A long while since I listened.
They’ll be next and they won’t know any better
Orwell also got it wrong not predicting people would not want to turn of their telescreens
Absolutely. IIRC, the option of turning them off was only available to very high ranking members and even then only for relatively short periods of time.
Now we have Boomers with Fox on 24/7.
Been had that
So you’re telling me that the creepy motherfuckers who would wear something like this around in public do creepy things?
Never would have guessed that. 🤔
Also why is Meta watching that footage?
I’m pretty sure they monitor everything on all of their platforms, I don’t know if they have to for legal reasons or just choose to.
Yeah, sorry I just read the article and found the answer, they tag the videos to train their AI.
But this is not the problem but a symptom. Of you having no right to privacy (and if, it can be overwritten by some ToS).
Well you definitely don’t have any right to privacy in public in the US.
You have a reduced right to privacy in public but not eliminated all together.
Yet another surveilance tool marketed as a cool tech gadget.
I remember when cool tech gadgets were cool and not undisguised spy tools.
It’s almost absurd at this point, but i used to be really into gadgets and tech and shit. Now everything i see is like: that’s a spy tool. That’s showing ads. That is an ad. That is just a lie.
Same. At most I got 15 years left and I doubt I will ever see this changing in my lifetime.
They wouldn’t! Not a penis camera right? Thry wouldn’t!
Oh they would!
And then make it mandatory for everyone with a penis.
For child protection, you know.
Just noticed Child Protection.
How is this cool in any way.
The future is now, old man!
Well that’s what you get for spying on people. Duh
Meta learning what the meme-CIA agents had been subjected to for years.
Kathryn Bigelow’s most under-rated film is almost upon us…just 30 years later than we thought.
<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/b6e86bfd-e6b6-45bf-9653-0079db681933.jpeg">
Also…if you haven’t seen that movie…go watch it. It’s low-key one of her best.
I know this is off-topic, but Kathryn Bigelow is just an under-rated director in general I think. So many bangers. Also from a quick search I just found out she had a new movie out last year that stars Idris Elba, Rebecca Ferguson and Jared Harris? Somehow I missed that entirely.
Oh! In addition too Strange Days she directed the OG Point Break and The Hurt Locker! All great movies!
Great 90s cyberpunk movie. Way better than Johnny Mnemonic and Judge Dread.
Also starred the smokin’ hot Angela Basset as a bonus.
It really doesn’t matter if facial recognition is enabled or not today, it can always be done later on. This is a huge invasion of privacy.
I don’t think even George Orwell could have predicted that one day they’d put the cameras inside glasses, it would be common knowledge that they’re in there and the they’re spying on you and everyone you look at, and people would still voluntarily buy them with their own money and wear them around.
Just wait until they have brainwave scanners on the sides
that’s why aldous huxley was a better author
In soviet russia, glasses see you!
Sorry,
Surveilling my Sand Cheeks Cock Vore hentai addiction will continue!
Definitely not a Sony Walkman, which was cool and the foam headphones were comfortable to wear. I miss the simple analog days.
Le facebook product is… le spying?
What a surprise
Wow, what an admission. Peeping META?
I don’t know what’s worse. Meta admitting to spy and nothing happens or the dumb people still buying their crap and using their services.
Why and who’s buying those?