>The company plans to grab four categories: your sleep, your medications, your medical records, and your cycle tracking details. The company also said that humans (maybe Samsung employees and third-party contractors) will be able to review some of the data collected.
For your own sake… let them*
^* delete the data that is.^
Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org
on 14 Jul 05:10
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Just curiosity. How the hell is US medical system set up that it’s even possible for a company thats not in any way related to health have acess to medical history and meds?
Like my countries medical system is fully digitized, but there isn’t even a way for a random company to acess this information.
Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net
on 14 Jul 09:19
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My theory is you could probably feed it your medical history yourself, or potentially speak with whichever hospital would have it and ask them to share it with Samsung
When I changed dentists, I was told to ask my former dentist to give me my records to share it with them
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip
on 14 Jul 15:08
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A lot of this is info from smart watches, etc.
Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org
on 14 Jul 15:13
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Fair, heart rate, weight and height would be considered as medical records. But meds? How can it figure that out if i don’t specifically tell it?
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip
on 14 Jul 15:50
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It can’t. But they give you a space in the app for you to tell it.
Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org
on 14 Jul 15:55
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When I looked into it, the health related smartwatch features that were sold specifically said that they required you to use use, and agree to the terms of service (which says they can cancel the service at any time) of, their specific apps or devices and that the data provided to these services were theirs to do with as they please.
I thought that was a terrible deal so I didn’t buy one.
There are smartwatches that let you keep your data, but they require a lot more work to use.
They don’t require any work to use, have a battery life measured in weeks, not hours, keep all your health data local unless you very specifically set it up to send it to a health app, and are open source and reasonably priced.
Not an advertisement. It’s still a US company, but compared with something like a Samsung thing they’re pretty cool.
Probably they’ll keep it, they’ll just delete your access to it.
plenipotentprotogod@lemmy.world
on 14 Jul 04:11
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I have a Samsung phone and I take great pleasure in ignoring the weekly reminders that I still haven’t agreed to their latest privacy policy (or any previous version since the very first one which I was forced to accept while setting up the phone). Refusing to do this probably doesn’t accomplish anything, but it’s my own private act of rebellion while I eagerly await those new Motorola phones with first-party Graphene OS support.
Why would any sane person even use this kind of feature? It’s not even that useful :/.
It’s the kind of thing people think they needed, when actually they dont… Who the fuck needs to know how many steps you did this afternoon? Or how “good” you slept yesterday? How many calories your ate this morning…?
I haven’t seen a single good use case of this kind of tracking device, except for your insurance/bank…
I use a Garmin watch to track my heart rate and variability, but I have a heart condition, so yeah. I agree with everything else though. “High stress detected” yeah, no shit.
Why would you voluntarily give a company access to you health data, and not expect it to be abused ten times to sunday? They haven’t even secured it properly, so perhaps your health records are being traded on a data black market.
I had a Samsung smart watch, and it was honestly hard to use without an account. Half the features are locked behind signing in. I stopped using it when weather updates stopped working without logging in.
Now I have a dumb mechanical watch, and it’s glorious.
Same, but I’ve sidegraded to Pebble, which stores the data on my phone.
Art3mis@lemmy.blahaj.zone
on 15 Jul 00:06
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Love my dumb watch. Had to get a new smartwatch every 3 years or so due to planned obselesence. Spent the same amount on a pretty citizen and have had it for over 5 years. Hasnt even noticably lost time
Blame consumers for the abuse and malpractice of corporations who SHOULD be publicly regulated.
This viewpoint encourages their practices by peddling the same logic these corporations use to continue justifying their practices.
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip
on 15 Jul 00:50
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The logic is just silly. They know exactly why: telemetry is a first class feature in just about any digital consumer based product. We live in a culture defined by consumerism. Social class is defined by what you can consume. Success is defined by your ability to consume more. You gotta have the fancy car, the nice shoes, the biggest house and the best suit.
Caring about telemetry, what information can be inferred from what data, and what information poses what risks in which entities hands… that line of thinking isn’t popular. Blindly consuming is popular. Showing off your cool new watch is popular.
The result is that Samsung has health data. This is right in our faces. There are no secrets, no hard puzzles, nothing of that sort. Seeds planted, and now people wonder why they have a bean staulk? Golly.
You’re believing in the tooth fairy. We live in corporatism as a political system, with a nearly complete regulatory capture. As a consumer, you are completely screwed. So do not use proprietary services and products. If you call this corporate sympathizing I wonder what you’d call corporate criticism.
quick_snail@feddit.nl
on 14 Jul 15:58
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Awesome. Samsung shouldn’t have anyone’s health data.
Well at least they’re giving people the option. Most other companies just declare they’re giving themselves permission to use your data unless you opt-out (meaning if you’ve lost access to the account you’ve got no way to stop them)
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Don’t tempt me with a good time.
Right? If Apple would do that to me I’ll drop them like a hot potato
>The company plans to grab four categories: your sleep, your medications, your medical records, and your cycle tracking details. The company also said that humans (maybe Samsung employees and third-party contractors) will be able to review some of the data collected.
For your own sake… let them*
^* delete the data that is.^
Just curiosity. How the hell is US medical system set up that it’s even possible for a company thats not in any way related to health have acess to medical history and meds?
Like my countries medical system is fully digitized, but there isn’t even a way for a random company to acess this information.
My theory is you could probably feed it your medical history yourself, or potentially speak with whichever hospital would have it and ask them to share it with Samsung
When I changed dentists, I was told to ask my former dentist to give me my records to share it with them
A lot of this is info from smart watches, etc.
Fair, heart rate, weight and height would be considered as medical records. But meds? How can it figure that out if i don’t specifically tell it?
It can’t. But they give you a space in the app for you to tell it.
That makes sense, thank you for elaborating.
Why would Samsung have my health data ???
They have an app, called ‘Samsung Health’, that allows you to see/record how many steps you did, how you slept etc etc
afaik you can sync data from a samsung smartwatch and let it analyze stuff
Smart watches.
I believe currently the health app is the only way to use galaxy watch gen 4+.
Just checked and couldn’t find any other way.
If you’re not paying for it, you’re the product.
This isn’t that. People are paying for devices with promised feature sets that have now had their terms changed.
When I looked into it, the health related smartwatch features that were sold specifically said that they required you to use use, and agree to the terms of service (which says they can cancel the service at any time) of, their specific apps or devices and that the data provided to these services were theirs to do with as they please.
I thought that was a terrible deal so I didn’t buy one.
There are smartwatches that let you keep your data, but they require a lot more work to use.
Pebble are pretty good.
They don’t require any work to use, have a battery life measured in weeks, not hours, keep all your health data local unless you very specifically set it up to send it to a health app, and are open source and reasonably priced.
Not an advertisement. It’s still a US company, but compared with something like a Samsung thing they’re pretty cool.
Sounds ok to me, it’s usually very hard to get data like that deleted. Best to not let them get it in the first place.
One just never hears anything good about Samsung anymore.
What? This is great news.
So I can tell them to not use my data, and they’ll also delete it as a bonus?
Now I wish I’d ever given them any health data, just so I could do this.
Probably they’ll keep it, they’ll just delete your access to it.
I have a Samsung phone and I take great pleasure in ignoring the weekly reminders that I still haven’t agreed to their latest privacy policy (or any previous version since the very first one which I was forced to accept while setting up the phone). Refusing to do this probably doesn’t accomplish anything, but it’s my own private act of rebellion while I eagerly await those new Motorola phones with first-party Graphene OS support.
i hope they are available in my region. it’d be nice to have when planned obsolescence takes mine.
Use gadget bridge ! It’s an open source app. Your data stay on the phone !
gadgetbridge.org
f-droid.org/…/nodomain.freeyourgadget.gadgetbridg…
Why would any sane person even use this kind of feature? It’s not even that useful :/.
It’s the kind of thing people think they needed, when actually they dont… Who the fuck needs to know how many steps you did this afternoon? Or how “good” you slept yesterday? How many calories your ate this morning…?
I haven’t seen a single good use case of this kind of tracking device, except for your insurance/bank…
I use a Garmin watch to track my heart rate and variability, but I have a heart condition, so yeah. I agree with everything else though. “High stress detected” yeah, no shit.
How would Samsung get my health data in the first place?
Samsung Health data?
Why would you voluntarily give a company access to you health data, and not expect it to be abused ten times to sunday? They haven’t even secured it properly, so perhaps your health records are being traded on a data black market.
I had a Samsung smart watch, and it was honestly hard to use without an account. Half the features are locked behind signing in. I stopped using it when weather updates stopped working without logging in.
Now I have a dumb mechanical watch, and it’s glorious.
Same, but I’ve sidegraded to Pebble, which stores the data on my phone.
Love my dumb watch. Had to get a new smartwatch every 3 years or so due to planned obselesence. Spent the same amount on a pretty citizen and have had it for over 5 years. Hasnt even noticably lost time
Indirect corporate sympathizing is what this is.
Blame consumers for the abuse and malpractice of corporations who SHOULD be publicly regulated.
This viewpoint encourages their practices by peddling the same logic these corporations use to continue justifying their practices.
The logic is just silly. They know exactly why: telemetry is a first class feature in just about any digital consumer based product. We live in a culture defined by consumerism. Social class is defined by what you can consume. Success is defined by your ability to consume more. You gotta have the fancy car, the nice shoes, the biggest house and the best suit.
Caring about telemetry, what information can be inferred from what data, and what information poses what risks in which entities hands… that line of thinking isn’t popular. Blindly consuming is popular. Showing off your cool new watch is popular.
The result is that Samsung has health data. This is right in our faces. There are no secrets, no hard puzzles, nothing of that sort. Seeds planted, and now people wonder why they have a bean staulk? Golly.
You’re believing in the tooth fairy. We live in corporatism as a political system, with a nearly complete regulatory capture. As a consumer, you are completely screwed. So do not use proprietary services and products. If you call this corporate sympathizing I wonder what you’d call corporate criticism.
Awesome. Samsung shouldn’t have anyone’s health data.
Well at least they’re giving people the option. Most other companies just declare they’re giving themselves permission to use your data unless you opt-out (meaning if you’ve lost access to the account you’ve got no way to stop them)