"We need to go beyond Signal" – How today's AWS outage shows the weaknesses of centralized apps | TechRadar
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“We need to go beyond Signal” – How today’s AWS outage shows the weaknesses of centralized apps | TechRadar techradar.com/…/we-need-to-go-beyond-signal-how-t…

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solrize@lemmy.ml on 22 Oct 2025 16:39 next collapse

Lol a Google share link on the privacy forum. Anyone know where it goes? OP can you fix it?

aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Oct 2025 16:43 collapse
specialwall@midwest.social on 22 Oct 2025 16:40 next collapse

And then you use a centralized service by Google to redirect the link rather than just using the link itself. 🙁

Here’s the actual link: techradar.com/…/we-need-to-go-beyond-signal-how-t…

ItsPronouncedZed@lemmy.ca on 22 Oct 2025 16:45 next collapse

Oh jeez, that’s embarrassing. I’m a Noob poster. I’ll do better next time.

specialwall@midwest.social on 22 Oct 2025 16:50 next collapse

I would definitely encourage you to edit the link for this post to include the correct one!

ItsPronouncedZed@lemmy.ca on 22 Oct 2025 17:00 collapse

Yep. Fixed it the moment I replied.

florencia@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 22 Oct 2025 16:55 collapse

Too late. OP is now noted as a google plant. I’ll stick to more reliable source like the other people on this sub

nixfreak@sopuli.xyz on 22 Oct 2025 19:17 collapse

lol

[deleted] on 22 Oct 2025 16:44 next collapse

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kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 22 Oct 2025 17:06 next collapse

Andy Yen, the founder and CEO of Proton, which developed one of the best VPN and encrypted email services around, suggested that the Signal AW-based outage shows that “an European alternative not run on Big Tech cloud will be necessary to safeguard strategic autonomy.”

Not supporting the puppet government of said Big Tech could be another good strategic thing to do, don’t you think Andy?

Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml on 23 Oct 2025 02:14 collapse

He doesn’t. He said that on the issue of privacy the Republicans were more responsive than the Democrats.

warmaster@lemmy.world on 23 Oct 2025 02:38 next collapse

Which is actually crazy.

kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 23 Oct 2025 10:41 collapse

This was his tweet:

Great pick by @realDonaldTrump. 10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned. People forget that the current antitrust actions against Big Tech were started under the first Trump admin.

Dec 4, 2024 · 10:27 PM UTC

Didn’t age well, if you ask me.

original_reader@lemmy.zip on 22 Oct 2025 18:47 next collapse

Instead of dismissing Signal, I wonder if it could be changed to support a federated model.

Just a thought, because Signal has seen widespread adoption. Getting people to change their messenger is hard.

tekato@lemmy.world on 22 Oct 2025 22:43 next collapse

Signal is against federation.

Zyansheep@programming.dev on 22 Oct 2025 23:37 next collapse

What about a peer-to-peer model with relay servers like SimpleX?

hanrahan@slrpnk.net on 23 Oct 2025 01:00 collapse

Maube but Simplex really sucks balls IMO

bluemoon@piefed.social on 26 Oct 2025 02:01 collapse

read cryptographers blogs. kike Saotok the furry iirc. also simplex has a cryptography report that it has failed and not implemented.

[deleted] on 23 Oct 2025 02:37 collapse

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sqgl@sh.itjust.works on 24 Oct 2025 17:45 collapse

— endorsed by Whiskey Pete

Undertaker@feddit.org on 22 Oct 2025 22:26 next collapse

Decentralized services habe one huge advantage: Most people don’t unterstand, how it works, where to register and do on. Additionally federation comes with lots of additional to get most of connections.

Therefore: Centralized is definitely the way but not using shitty big tech. Maybe backup infrastructure could also be a way.

And Proton? Couldn’t stop laughing.

Zyansheep@programming.dev on 22 Oct 2025 23:40 next collapse

www.privacyguides.org/…/real-time-communication/#…

geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml on 23 Oct 2025 00:01 collapse

Matrix was developed by an Israeli company so hard pass on that. Signal looks like the best we got. hackea.org/notas/matrix.html

specialwall@midwest.social on 23 Oct 2025 00:44 collapse

What exactly is your concern? It’s a decentralized service, so it’s not as if any of your data has to be controlled by them to use it

SuperDuperKitten@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 23 Oct 2025 01:02 next collapse

I can only understand the concern if it related to how many the chat room and users are mostly created in offical Matrix instance instead more be self-hosted and even that is a reach

iturnedintoanewt@lemmy.world on 23 Oct 2025 01:55 collapse

Onion is also decentralized, and everyone knows it’s monitored by the alphabet agencies. So yeah, I’d consider a hidden encryption vulnerability a solid possibility.