Too broke to get a VPN.
from imjustmsk@lemmy.ml to piracy@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 08:47
https://lemmy.ml/post/45908543

I am into torrenting movies- alas no money to get a VPN, What else can I do? I don’t really need a VPN because I live in a third world country and I don’t get no lettters if I sail the seas, I was searching for any other ways to hide my IP address from the swarm, without loosing much speed?

I came across this Tribler client, I don’t know if its good, Should I try Socks5 proxy or something like that?

Or tell me if the only good method is using a VPN, in that case I should wait out a couple years until I make money and remote torrent by making like 15 accounts in TorBox.

I will apologize, if I said something stupid in advance because I severly lack any knowledge in what I am talking about.

#piracy

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SammyJK@programming.dev on 14 Apr 09:19 next collapse

Proton VPN is free to use. It has limited options but should be enough for torrenting movies.

Nikki@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 14 Apr 10:46 collapse

the free tier on proton blocks torrent traffic FYI (for me anyway last I tried)

imjustmsk@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 13:49 next collapse

yes it does and its slow too. 

SammyJK@programming.dev on 15 Apr 14:31 collapse

Ohhh, darn it! Didn’t know that. Thanks for the reply!

Technoguyfication@sh.itjust.works on 14 Apr 09:22 next collapse

Windscribe has a free tier and you can sign up for unlimited data at a single VPN server for only $1 per month.

imjustmsk@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 13:50 collapse

I have tried it but a singular movie I download is probably around 10-20 gb and Windscribe just gives you 10gb/mon

Technoguyfication@sh.itjust.works on 15 Apr 00:04 collapse

Download smaller movies then. There are trackers that specialize in highly compressed low quality encodes. You will have to make sacrifices somewhere if you don’t want to spend any money on a VPN.

imjustmsk@lemmy.ml on 15 Apr 04:50 collapse

Ohh yea I guess so, I am spoiled with good quality movies -Whenever I see YTS I run the other way, If I had to download smaller movies I don’t even have to use a VPN as mentioned in the post I can use TorBox or Seedr., They already might have movies cached too. 

Zedd00@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 14 Apr 09:25 next collapse

There’s a pretty good chance that there isn’t an enforcement method in your country. It’s not worth it for companies to enforce copyright in countries where nobody has any money.

imjustmsk@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 13:51 collapse

Yea, they only take actions towards the people who hosts piracy websites mostly. 

Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu on 14 Apr 09:48 next collapse

Only reason for vpn is to avoid nasty letters from isp.

Of that doesn’t happen on your country, ignore the need for vpn while torrenting.

imjustmsk@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 13:55 collapse

If I don’t use a VPN, is it a good idea to seed? I feel bad if I just get it and don’t seed lol. 

Mothra@mander.xyz on 14 Apr 15:33 collapse

I didn’t know there was a difference in seeding vs leeching with regards to using a vpn. My logic would be, if you can leech, you can also seed. But I’m no expert so, take it with a grain of salt

imjustmsk@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 15:41 collapse

Oh yes I know that, what I meant is Its already risky leeching but if I also keep seeding- my IP will be visible to the swarm longer. 

Lag@piefed.world on 14 Apr 20:16 collapse

You can usually uncheck one .txt file from the content so it doesn’t download and the torrent will stay at 99%.

Technoguyfication@sh.itjust.works on 15 Apr 00:05 collapse

That doesn’t prevent your client from uploading, your client seeds while it is downloading. It will still complete and do the same thing anyway, every client I know of will show as completed when all the requested content is downloaded.

Lag@piefed.world on 15 Apr 01:23 collapse

I would think it only says complete on your client-side because not everyone should know everything you are requesting at once. It will still be seeding obviously but it’s just a low effort way in case the people looking for a list of seeders use low effort too.

Dyskolos@lemmy.zip on 14 Apr 12:19 next collapse

Too broke for expensive subscriptions? Also too broke for a cheap lifetime VPN? Like 30 moneyz?

imjustmsk@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 13:52 collapse

not broke - I don’t earn. 

Ftumch@lemmy.today on 14 Apr 12:50 next collapse

I don’t think you need to hide your IP address, but if you really want to I guess you could try I2P.

N0x0n@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 13:53 next collapse

There’s also github.com/Naunter/BT_BlockLists

Which has a bit of controversy… Some people say it works other say it’s useless. I use this filter over a year now and didn’t get any dmca from my ISP. (I don’t download any recent media though)

Keep in mind, this could/will potentially block healthy peers in the swarm ^^ it’s not a full bulletproof solution…

It does work in qbittorrent you just need to change the extension to .p2p I think?

Lemmchen@feddit.org on 14 Apr 14:25 next collapse

support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/built-in-vpn
winaero.com/enable-firefox-vpn/

imjustmsk@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 15:13 collapse

The built in Firefox VPN? Can you use that system wide though or just the browser? 

Lemmchen@feddit.org on 14 Apr 15:26 collapse

Does VPN protect my whole device?

No. The built-in VPN only hides your IP address and location while browsing in Firefox. It does not protect traffic from other apps on your device. For full-device protection, we offer Mozilla VPN.

Since you said you don’t need it for torrents, I thought this would suffice. But I realize now you still want to hide your IP while torrenting.

imjustmsk@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 15:37 collapse

ye. 

MCTamTam@feddit.org on 14 Apr 14:30 next collapse

DuckierVPN is free

duckier.com

imjustmsk@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 15:16 collapse

What’s the catch? Does it support P2P? 

MCTamTam@feddit.org on 14 Apr 15:30 collapse

I don’t know about p2p. I think the catch is that they will add premium features when they habe a plenty of users.

imjustmsk@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 15:40 collapse

I don’t know,  I can’t trust a random “free unlimited VPN” with my internet traffic, as well as the text in their website feels vague, and clanker generated mostly. 

Any random Free Unlimited VPN with high speed is most probably a scam, who is crazy enough to throw money into a hole for no particular reason. 

MCTamTam@feddit.org on 14 Apr 16:08 next collapse

I know what you mean.

bl4kers@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 22:15 next collapse

You seem to have a lot of requirements. Beggars can’t be choosers

imjustmsk@lemmy.ml on 22 Apr 13:50 collapse

lol true, Ill just have to decide to not use a VPN until I get some money. 

Technoguyfication@sh.itjust.works on 15 Apr 00:02 collapse

OP, you seem to have a lot of requirements for someone who isn’t willing to spend any money on a VPN. You either trust the VPN provider or you don’t. If you aren’t paying for it, assume your traffic is being monitored and monetized somehow.

You asked about VPNs, people gave you options, and it looks like you’ve turned down every one of them. A free unlimited VPN with no strings attached that allows torrenting at high speeds does not exist. You may as well be searching for a unicorn.

imjustmsk@lemmy.ml on 15 Apr 04:46 collapse

I know I am looking for a unicorn lol, I was not really looking for a VPN anyway I know it simply doesn’t exist, I turned down most of them because I did try them all, I came to the realization to not gaf and torrent without a VPN. 

digital_descartes@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 15:19 next collapse

riseup.net/en/vpn

  • But I can’t promise that this won’t use up a few kbps of your internet connection
racoon@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 17:36 next collapse

protonVPN has a free tier

imjustmsk@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 18:19 next collapse

it doesn’t have p2p and its slow. 

racoon@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 22:21 collapse

vpns are always slow: 4,6 vs 420 Mb/s right now. If the free tier is even slower, then it is a real punishment

Majestic@lemmy.ml on 16 Apr 02:56 collapse

They don’t allow torrenting on it. It’s for web browsing only. It won’t work well at all.

xnx@piefed.social on 14 Apr 17:59 next collapse

Bind your qbittorrent to cloudflare warp. https://one.one.one.one/

imjustmsk@lemmy.ml on 14 Apr 18:53 next collapse

I once remember trying it and it was slow when I tried it. 

pastermil@sh.itjust.works on 14 Apr 19:05 collapse

You sure you wanna use that for piracy?

BastingChemina@slrpnk.net on 14 Apr 19:58 next collapse

I don’t understand what you are asking. You don’t need a VPN since you lube in a third world country that does not care and piracy.

Then torrent movies without a VPN.

Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Apr 00:01 collapse

OP wants privacy from the swarm.

deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml on 15 Apr 17:06 collapse

Can someone explain what this “swarm” is to someone who knows pretty much fuck all about computer hardware and software and is semi interested in setting sail? I’ve downloaded music for free my whole life with no issues or letters in the mail (Usa)

Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 16 Apr 00:17 collapse

If you are really interested:
en.wikipedia.org/…/Glossary_of_BitTorrent_terms

Swarm specifically: The general collective working together so you (the leech in this case) can complete the download and (best case) take over a part of the seeding pool.

HubertManne@piefed.social on 14 Apr 20:31 next collapse

vpns just change who can look over your traffic. it basically takes the place of the isp as your endpoint. So its about what the vpn promises like not logging or not persistantly logging or not persistantly anything.

Majestic@lemmy.ml on 16 Apr 03:03 collapse

It doesn’t matter.

The only reason to have VPNs for this is preventing internet shut-offs, fines, and nasty letters. Those only exist in the first world for the most part and only parts of it (in Germany they will directly fine you thousands per violation most severe case, in most places like the US they just shut off your internet after enough violations but you get warnings).

If your country doesn’t have a regime for fining you directly for this, doesn’t have internet shut-off laws, and doesn’t have any other major consequences then it doesn’t matter. You can look it up.

Even some first world countries don’t care. Through a quirk of law in Australia for example it’s basically impossible for copyright holders to go after people doing p2p stuff for anything but the retail price ($20) of works so it’s not worth their time and people there can do it freely.

No one else in the swarm cares who you are nor can they do anything. Use a modern client like Qbittorrent and keep it updated to stay secure.

At most maybe your ISP may throttle your bittorrent traffic because it’s not hidden using a VPN. But if you don’t have money you’re not getting a VPN that would improve your speed situation anyways. Just be patient.

imjustmsk@lemmy.ml on 16 Apr 11:37 collapse

I haven’t noticed ISP throttling speed yet, so I guess a VPN is not necessary at all.