Why aren't there more pirated audiobooks considering how easy it is to rip them from Audible?
from Anonymous_TorPerson@lemmy.ml to piracy@lemmy.ml on 11 Oct 2023 18:55
https://lemmy.ml/post/6346414

edit: Libation apps needs you to give it your amazon password and ID, it’s foss and I trust it. (editing because seemed important)

Amazon allows you to download the book from Audible, but you need a code/password or something like that to read it. Libation can basically convert these encrypted files into decrypted mp3 files by getting this code from the website, I am pretty sure you can get it too. So, my question is, why aren’t there more pirates pirating audiobooks? Why isn’t every audiobook on audible available online for free?

I mean, many are, but why is it not more prevalent?

#piracy

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SHamblingSHapes@lemmy.one on 11 Oct 2023 19:11 next collapse
  1. If it’s available digitally from one of the many libraries I belong to, that’s easier. I prefer it to Audible even.

  2. If not available by library, I can’t recall the last time I wasn’t able to find it through some alternative means.

Insert Pirates of the Caribbean meme about being, without doubt, the worst pirate I’ve ever seen.

echo64@lemmy.world on 11 Oct 2023 19:21 next collapse

Pirates don’t use audible. More to the point you still have to buy books on audible. So no one is just automatically ripping everything

Chainweasel@lemmy.world on 11 Oct 2023 20:20 next collapse

IDK, I rip literally everything I buy on audible. I have been since they replaced RC Bray with fucking Wil Wheton for The Martian. I want the version I paid for and I’m going to keep it goddamnit!

echo64@lemmy.world on 11 Oct 2023 22:22 next collapse

Yes, me too. Mainly because I don’t want to use the audible app.

But that’s not the point, pirates are able to pirate every netflix show because netflix let’s you access everything. This is not how audible works

Chainweasel@lemmy.world on 11 Oct 2023 22:34 next collapse

So, if I purchase things and make them available for free to those who want it, I’m not a pirate, I’m only a pirate if I don’t pay for the things I supply?
Maybe I fit into a different category but I pay for what I can, torrent what I can’t, but seed all of it.

Kayel@aussie.zone on 12 Oct 2023 02:01 collapse

I think I understand your meaning.

There’s a cost barrier as Audible is a pay-per-item service.

I think you’re running up against a wall with your ‘he’s not a real Scott’ argument.

echo64@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2023 11:07 collapse

honestly i was never making the “you aren’t a real pirate” argument, people just want to have that fight, i don’t care what people are or are not. but yeah you hit on the head

01189998819991197253@infosec.pub on 12 Oct 2023 20:06 collapse

Probably a stupid question, but how do you rip the drm? I hate having to use my phone to listen to it in my car, for example, and I don’t have unlimited data or an audio jack (I know, I can download the app, and have play through that, I don’t want their stupid app). I want to load an mp3 on my thumb drive, and plug that into the car, and leave it in the car until I need to load a new mp3. I’ve done a recording, but have to let it run the length of the program, and that’s just annoying.

Chainweasel@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2023 20:41 collapse

This is the app I use, It strips the DRM and converts to mp3 or M4A files:

github.com/rmcrackan/Libation

01189998819991197253@infosec.pub on 12 Oct 2023 21:31 collapse

This is amazing! Thank you!!

pory@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2023 03:41 collapse

One guy buys, rips DRM, uploads to pirates. That’s how almost all piracy works, someone usually had to buy a legit copy.

echo64@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2023 11:08 collapse

historically, no. most pirated content comes via centralized sources. The last time I was involved in anything like this it was people at stores who could rip dvds, cds, games because they worked there and would get a kickback, that’s how different groups (those words at the end of the filename) would get the relases

pory@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 2023 06:13 collapse

The centralized pirate guys need to get the content from somewhere. Usually by cracking or obtaining a retail copy, rarely by stealing one.

echo64@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 2023 12:27 collapse

please read literally the second sentence of what i said.

AdmiralShat@programming.dev on 11 Oct 2023 19:27 next collapse

What books are you trying to find that aren’t on audio book bay?

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Historical_General@lemm.ee on 11 Oct 2023 19:55 next collapse

It’s a basic site but well stocked. Not comparable to the big torrent sites, but it is great.

echolomaniac@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2023 08:49 collapse

It is clunky to use but their catalogue is great. I would recommend it to anyone trying to find audiobooks.

AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social on 11 Oct 2023 20:36 collapse

Yes but I always have to set my VPN to like England or Sweden to access it.

AdmiralShat@programming.dev on 11 Oct 2023 21:18 next collapse

I have never had an issue with access.

Kayel@aussie.zone on 12 Oct 2023 01:57 collapse

Your ISP DNS might have unlisted it. Does it work if you change your DNS provider?

Historical_General@lemm.ee on 11 Oct 2023 19:56 next collapse

Imagine somebody gamified it like people gamify seeding lol.

LifeLikeLady@lemmy.world on 11 Oct 2023 20:10 next collapse

Y’all ever hear of Libby app? It’s like piracy with fewer steps.

sergioknight@monyet.cc on 11 Oct 2023 21:13 next collapse

Love Libby, but my small town library has limited inventory. Is there a virtual library I can get a card for with a larger inventory?

SnowBunting@lemmy.ml on 11 Oct 2023 21:25 next collapse

I too want to know. Sometimes I find a book, but it isn’t available.

radix@lemm.ee on 11 Oct 2023 23:36 next collapse

I believe there do exist places where you can get a virtual library card without living there. New York Public Library is what comes to mind, but don’t quote me on that.

iheartneopets@lemm.ee on 12 Oct 2023 08:32 next collapse

That’s only for New York residents, unless you’re a teen looking to read banned books this year in particular.

radix@lemm.ee on 12 Oct 2023 12:43 collapse

Ah shoot, I don’t know then. I thought there was something but maybe it’s some sort of policy that limits cardholders to just residents.

sergioknight@monyet.cc on 12 Oct 2023 20:52 next collapse

Need to verify a NYC address for this one

ThisIsNotHim@sopuli.xyz on 13 Oct 2023 01:30 collapse

Unless the policy changed recently: Brooklyn doesn’t require a NY address. I had a Brooklyn card for years, but have never lived in NY. It was about $50 a year.

Vode_An@lemmy.ml on 12 Oct 2023 00:51 next collapse

Chicago

iheartneopets@lemm.ee on 12 Oct 2023 08:30 collapse

Just checked, and they say it’s only for residents?

Vode_An@lemmy.ml on 12 Oct 2023 13:52 collapse

They don’t enforce it. I have never been to Chicago and use it all the time.

iheartneopets@lemm.ee on 12 Oct 2023 17:06 collapse

What address did you use? They ask for both a zip code and address.

Vode_An@lemmy.ml on 12 Oct 2023 17:23 collapse

I don’t remember, I think i just picked a random street and added some random numbers after it

iheartneopets@lemm.ee on 12 Oct 2023 18:40 collapse

Nice, just did it and it works? I guess we’ll see if they ever kick me out. I feel like a spy

TheWoozy@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 13 Oct 2023 00:52 next collapse

I’m pretty sure the state of Kentucky will let anyone get a card.

TheWoozy@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 09 Nov 2023 22:30 collapse

The Kentucky state library will give anyone a virtual library card. I also have cards from a couple nearby counties that have cooperative agreements with my local library. Libby makes you search each of them separately.

Moonguide@lemmy.ml on 11 Oct 2023 22:54 next collapse

Being american/living there is required for that, right?

DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz on 12 Oct 2023 18:21 collapse

No

Moonguide@lemmy.ml on 12 Oct 2023 22:31 collapse

You sure? Just downloaded and it required a library card.

Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works on 13 Oct 2023 01:36 next collapse

Right but the card doesnt have those requirements. It says it does but nowhere enforces it. Chicago, new york, kentucky etc all work.

Moonguide@lemmy.ml on 13 Oct 2023 07:03 collapse

Oh, really? Damn, I’ll get right on that, then. Thanks!

DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz on 14 Oct 2023 12:06 collapse

Yes it does, i use the one from my local library even though it’s not a US library. Everything is checked out on my regular library account, i just access the materials (usually the English books I read) through libby. I’m granted access to Libby through my local library.

NightAuthor@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2023 03:31 collapse

I like to add a step back in, where I rip the audiobook and then return the rental to the library. Others get to listen, and I have a copy for whenever I actually get around to listening to it :-)

August27th@lemmy.ca on 12 Oct 2023 06:26 next collapse

How does one rip from Libby? The analog hole?

NightAuthor@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2023 06:31 collapse

It’s gotten harder lately, the old app would just straight let you download mp3 files by chapter. It’s a bit more complicated now.

I believe this is what I used last time. github.com/chbrown/overdrive

Grippler@feddit.dk on 12 Oct 2023 07:56 collapse

I do this with ebooks from them. Just download the epub, strip the DRM, return immediately so someone else can read it and i have my DRM-free offline copy for whenever i have time to read it.

willya@lemmyf.uk on 11 Oct 2023 21:03 next collapse

Pretty much every book is available the day of release. Not sure what you’re talking about.

Anonymous_TorPerson@lemmy.ml on 12 Oct 2023 05:01 collapse

<img alt="" src="https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/3179cbde-3677-4fa1-a082-377fca96c070.png"> ok sir, you don’t have the right to remain silent. lemmy see the websites you use

willya@lemmyf.uk on 12 Oct 2023 05:36 collapse

myanonamouse.net

You have to queue up on IRC and go through an interview process.

Grippler@feddit.dk on 12 Oct 2023 07:53 next collapse

This is when piracy is no longer the more convenient option.

willya@lemmyf.uk on 12 Oct 2023 08:34 collapse

Not really. It’s not that huge of an undertaking lol. Especially for what’s handed over to you after joining.

Anonymous_TorPerson@lemmy.ml on 12 Oct 2023 08:01 collapse

Have heard a lot about them, let’s see if I can join em

willya@lemmyf.uk on 12 Oct 2023 08:43 collapse

My comment is getting downvoted but it’s a great source. The interview process is just making sure you understand the rules of the site. I’m guessing lazy fucks are downvoting.

Khanzarate@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2023 12:54 collapse

Raw links get downvotes because it lets indexers find sites much easier, and helps get takedowns. I dunno that that’s what happened but when I saw your link I went “hey, do it properly”.

Lemmy isn’t a big as Reddit though, dunno if that’s really something we gotta worry about.

renlok@lemmy.ml on 11 Oct 2023 23:03 next collapse

I listen to hundreds of audiobooks and I’ve literally never been unable to find an audiobook I wanted to pirate. Audiobook/eBook piracy is huge.

DahGangalang@infosec.pub on 12 Oct 2023 00:35 next collapse

Where do you go for audiobooks? What player(s) do you use?

Money is getting tight with some life changes and don’t know that I can afford to stick with my audible subscription.

Albbi@lemmy.ca on 12 Oct 2023 00:37 next collapse

Audiobookbay, and Smart Audiobook Player my friend.

pory@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2023 03:40 next collapse

If my private trackers don’t have what I’m looking for, DHT search engines like btdig always have my back when it comes to audiobooks.

bitsplease@lemmy.ml on 12 Oct 2023 04:21 next collapse

I use audibookbay to download, and AudiobookShelf to listen. It’s an awesome combination for DRM free audiobooks

lemming741@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2023 11:26 next collapse

MyAnonaMouse (mam) is a private tracker. You have to wait for very new popular titles but it’s gotten the job done for me.

Mr_Blott@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 2023 06:31 collapse

Mobilism dot org has been supplying me with audiobooks for over a decade

Psychodelic@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 2023 21:18 collapse

Holy shit! Y’all ain’t messing around!! I’ve been stuck on libby and considering subscribing to audible but that plan is officially scrapped.

Piracy for the win!

LiveLM@lemmy.zip on 11 Oct 2023 23:59 next collapse

Be the change you want to see ey?

rjs001@lemmygrad.ml on 12 Oct 2023 01:05 next collapse

I guessing less people want them. I imagine that it could be part of them being a far more niche area. Beyond that, don’t really know the reasoning for why

cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 12 Oct 2023 10:53 next collapse

support authors if you like them and audiobooks are free at libraries anyway

andruid@lemmy.ml on 13 Oct 2023 19:16 collapse

Know any good ways to support authors we like without having to pay to rent an audiobook?

computing1495@lemmy.world on 12 Oct 2023 13:58 collapse

audiobookbay

Sharpiemarker@feddit.de on 12 Oct 2023 15:14 next collapse

Also, there are a few places where you can stream them rather than downloading audio books, if you prefer.

fmhy.net

Cyberflunk@lemmy.world on 13 Oct 2023 07:29 collapse

Right?