Need a replacement messaging app for Samsung
from Hera@lemmy.world to degoogle@lemmy.ml on 15 Feb 01:01
https://lemmy.world/post/43147368

Trying to ditch Google messages without success. I hung onto the old Samsung app forever but it is super buggy for me. I tried to switch to textra, bought the paid version, but keep getting this “MMS timeout” message so idk if im not getting or sending messages correctly. Have tried all the fixes i found online to no avail. So, is there any real, decent alternative to Google messages?

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alk@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 15 Feb 01:08 next collapse

Textra doesn’t support RCS yet either so even if you don’t use RCS, that’s one reason it’s not a full replacement. There really is nothing comprehensive right now that will give you all of the features, as far as I’m aware.

skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de on 17 Feb 02:42 collapse

Nothing will support RCS except Google Messages. Google closed the source and extensibility of the messaging framework quite a while back. Around the time Signal dropped SMS support.

jnod4@lemmy.ca on 17 Feb 03:32 collapse

Why would anyone need RCS? What is RCS?

alk@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 17 Feb 06:39 collapse

It’s like SMS, a messaging standard. But compared to SMS, RCS enables features like end to end encryption, larger file attachments, rich text formatting, and much more. It is the new standard of messaging. Even iPhone texting is getting RCS support. I believe at some point SMS should die entirely and be replaced with RCS. It’s more secure, less spoofable, more convenient, and feature rich.

dev_null@lemmy.ml on 18 Feb 05:18 next collapse

Except it’s closed down and cannot be used by non-Google apps. Not an issue with the protocol itself, but that’s the reality on Android. Let alone iOS.

alk@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 18 Feb 12:33 collapse

It can absolutely be used on iOS. In fact, it’s already partially implemented and iOS is about to roll out end to end encryption in RCS as well.

dev_null@lemmy.ml on 18 Feb 13:38 collapse

Granted I don’t use iOS so I might have missed it, but can you give an example of a third party texting app that can use RCS on iOS?

I thought the situation is the same as on Android - third party apps can only use SMS, not RCS.

skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de on 21 Feb 06:46 collapse

Third party apps can’t even SMS on iOS. On Apple’s platform, you use their apps or you don’t get the feature. The iOS implementation of RCS doesn’t even yet support encryption. Apple is testing encryption between Apple devices.

That Apple and Google both hold the keys to what started out as an open GSMA standard, and now have a closed-source platform screams never trust it.

rav@lemmy.zip on 22 Feb 08:17 collapse

It is not any standard at all, while it’s limited to two companies and their apps in their closed ecosystems.

RyanDownyJr@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 01:15 next collapse

I’m in the same boat as you. Used Textra and Mighty Text years back but want to try swapping back. Doesn’t seem like anything can compete with the robust features Messages has right now, unfortunately…

Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 01:42 collapse

I’ve been using textra for about 9 years now with no problems. Can’t imagine the default offers anything it doesn’t.

Hera@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 02:29 next collapse

Im honestly fine without RCS I just dont know how ti get rid of the error message

Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 03:32 collapse

Oh shit, I missed that part in the post. Go into settings/mms/mms advanced and turn down the carrier send limit. It’s trying to send it in too big of chunks so your carrier blocks it

Hera@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 04:48 collapse

I cant find that option. Maybe being stupid about it? I have a samsung s25

Zulu@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 05:49 collapse

Open up textra itself like youre going to text someone but havent chosen who yet, hit the three dots in the top right, settings, under messaging is MMS. Carrier send limit is in there.

Hera@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 06:13 next collapse

Thank you!! I tried it and will report back. It would be awesome if this works and I dont have to go back.

Hera@lemmy.world on 16 Feb 21:25 next collapse

So far so good! Thank you so much for that!

Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world on 17 Feb 00:00 collapse

Sorry, should have specified textra settings lol glad it’s working!

Hera@lemmy.world on 17 Feb 04:50 collapse

Unfortunately I got the error message again, so I guess that isn’t the fix?

Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world on 17 Feb 14:41 collapse

Try setting it to the very lowest and very highest and have a friend send you an image for each.

Hera@lemmy.world on 17 Feb 16:20 collapse

I set it to 100kb and got the Pic fine and then 2000kb and got the image fine. I previously set it to no limit.

Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world on 17 Feb 16:45 collapse

There’s the ticket. Just set it to the 2k and forget about it. Something about the “no limit” setting makes it choke on the data.

Hera@lemmy.world on 17 Feb 18:23 next collapse

Thank you! I will try that.

Hera@lemmy.world on 20 Feb 15:01 collapse

So far so good! Dropping an update for future folks. Thanks again!

Hera@lemmy.world on 17 Feb 04:50 collapse

Unfortunately I got the error message again, so I guess that isn’t the fix?

rav@lemmy.zip on 18 Feb 16:42 collapse

Imagine how much your private data they harvested during whole that time…

reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/reports/705884

You aware of what tracker is?

Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world on 18 Feb 19:55 collapse

Instead of advertising to me about issues I’m trying to escape, can you help me find a reliable way to get a phone that runs cr droid or graphene? I want out of the corpo chokehold but getting a divice I can do that with is a fucking nightmare.

swelter_spark@reddthat.com on 15 Feb 02:52 next collapse

I like Quik SMS.

GlenRambo@jlai.lu on 17 Feb 00:35 collapse

Inase you didn’t know “quik” is a more active fork.

I’ve used the original and this for years.

github.com/octoshrimpy/quik

WeavingSpider@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 08:41 next collapse

Fossify messages work quite well.

Muhammadsodiq@lemmy.org on 17 Feb 13:12 next collapse

QUIK SMS (dev.octoshrimpy.quik.fdroid) from F-Droid

rav@lemmy.zip on 18 Feb 05:27 collapse

QUIK, Fossify messenger, Right Messages.