CraneMail EU Has Been Erected ($10/year indie email hosting with Amsterdam NL server) (lowendspirit.com)
from solrize@lemmy.ml to degoogle@lemmy.ml on 10 Jan 22:27
https://lemmy.ml/post/41515760

This service is run by online buddies of mine who ran VPS hosting for a long time. I expect it to be pretty good, though I’m not currently using it. mxroute.com is also around and comparable, though I think it is only sited in the US for now. Cranemail also has a US location.

Posting because people have been asking about non-Google email. I’m not connected with the company, I just know some of the guys running it. They have an affiliate program that I haven’t signed up for, though maybe I should ;). The above link is non-affiliated.

Edit: link is from May 2025, not brand new, still works.

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thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 10 Jan 23:39 next collapse

Wow. The LES crowd on lemmy. Nice.

I have one of those namecrane accounts. Works pretty well

Novocirab@feddit.org on 11 Jan 01:40 collapse

They’re still an American company. Better than Google, for sure, but the CLOUD Act means that when the US demands all your email, they will get it – even if the servers are located in Europe.

solrize@lemmy.ml on 11 Jan 05:06 next collapse

I think the company is Canadian but I haven’t checked. BuyVM was defnitely Canadian and was run by the same guy. You have to assume that email is never private anyway, since the person at the other end probably is on gmail, may have used CrapGPT, and so on.

Novocirab@feddit.org on 11 Jan 12:43 collapse

Hm, interesting. The website at least doesn’t look to me like it’s Canadian:

Of course it could still be, and email privacy is of course endangered by many other things. However, if someone does go through the hassle of shifting everything to a different email account, I would say best make sure to get a good distance from the US right off the bat.

solrize@lemmy.ml on 12 Jan 01:13 collapse

I think it’s similar with buyvm.net which is definitely Canadian, but I’m looking into it.

solrize@lemmy.ml on 13 Jan 19:05 collapse

I contacted Cranemail and they are a US company registered in Wyoming. Oh well. I think leaving your email on someone else’s server isn’t really the right way to do it anyway. It’s gotten very difficult to self-host SMTP, but self-hosting IMAP isn’t too bad, or you can just regularly pull and delete your email from a hosted IMAP, transferring it into your own and possibly making an encrypted backup.

Novocirab@feddit.org on 13 Jan 20:50 collapse

Thanks for investigating this!