I got hit. The UK is no longer safe from this.
from Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone to degoogle@lemmy.ml on 05 Jun 18:44
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/27057130

FUUU

Does anyone know of an ad blocker blocker blocker?

#degoogle

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drspod@lemmy.ml on 05 Jun 18:47 next collapse

Just be patient for the inevitable uBlockOrigin update that will fix it.

Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 05 Jun 18:49 collapse

True aha. yt-dlp still works mostly, so I suppose I could just use it to download my subscribed and watch offline. There’s always a way

LWD@lemm.ee on 05 Jun 18:58 collapse

With or without cookies?

I’ve recently been told to sign in when trying to access YouTube videos not just on a VPN, but now at my own residential location

Delta_V@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 19:34 collapse

you can add “–cookies-from-browser firefox” or whatever browser you use, to the end of the yt-dlp target

LWD@lemm.ee on 05 Jun 19:39 collapse

I’m personally just not that excited about needing a YouTube account to be signed in, in order to view/download videos. I imagine they wouldn’t take too kindly to that if they caught me. My existing account kind of matters, and apparently now you need a phone number to register a new one

verdigris@lemmy.ml on 05 Jun 20:27 next collapse

Downloading a video is functionally identical to watching the video. I’m not 100% sure they can’t tell, but they certainly shouldn’t care… You’re not circumventing anything by downloading a streamed video, they just obfuscate the download functionality.

LWD@lemm.ee on 05 Jun 20:53 collapse

I imagine they might care because advertisements are their source of revenue on that platform, which I believe loses money regardless. They’re also getting increasingly adamant about breaking people’s ad blockers.

It also appears to me that every combination of functional use requires some form of identification:

  • If you’re logged out, they’re okay with you browsing from an identifiable home IP address.
  • If you’re on a VPN, they’re okay with showing your videos if you log in so they can track your viewing habits.
  • If you’re on a VPN and make a new account, they want your phone number so they can tie your identity to an actual human being.

It might be a bit paranoid, but these factors combined suggest that Google does not want us to watch videos without providing some form of (inferrable) personal identification. And if Google can’t get what it wants, specifically data and ad revenue, they might be very willing to terminate an account that’s draining their coffers.

Korhaka@sopuli.xyz on 06 Jun 14:39 collapse

Does it have to be a home IP? I use a 4G connection behind NAT444 and it works fine without logging in. My LAN is 192.x.x.x and my router is on 10.x.x.x which is on the ISPs network, then right now on 85.x.x.x as a public IP which is clearly shared between multiple other customers.

They would do this instead of giving out IPv6 addresses…

Maeve@kbin.earth on 05 Jun 20:28 next collapse

and apparently now you need a phone number to register a new one

🏴‍☠️

bsammon@lemmy.sdf.org on 05 Jun 23:01 collapse

you need a phone number to register a new one

So what has worked for me in the past is: Get a cheap android/ChromeOS device (or power-wash one that you’re not using any more) and ensure that there’s not a working SIM card in it. When you power it up and it goes through the first-time-user setup, it asks you for your Google account, and provides you with the option to create one if you (claim you) don’t have one. Since there’s no SIM card, the newly created Google account has no phone number attached.

I imagine that you could copy down the info about this newly-created account (after making sure it has a password and you know what it is), and then wipe/power-wash the phone/tablet/Chromebook and do the process all over again and create another Google account.

Every google-OS-running device I’ve ever owned has gotten a new Google account created for it.

LWD@lemm.ee on 05 Jun 23:51 collapse

That is sneaky. I might need to give that a shot… Although I wonder if it’ll be okay with whatever VPN I sign onto first

Schwim@lemmy.zip on 05 Jun 18:47 next collapse

Freetube is patched often and remains usable 99% of the time for an ad(and sponsor, if wanted) free experience.

As Youtube makes changes solely to break these players, they are quick to jump through the new hoops.

ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 05 Jun 19:50 collapse

Freetube also has DeArrow built in to replace clickbait thumbnails and titles!

vikingtons@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 18:51 next collapse

Is this with Firefox + ublock origin? Things are still fine on my side.

Maeve@kbin.earth on 05 Jun 20:25 next collapse

It's already happening on librewolf.

vikingtons@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 20:35 collapse

heck. I’ve not had it so far in Firefox. Will keep an eye on it I guess

Maeve@kbin.earth on 05 Jun 21:58 collapse

Give it a minute. Librewolf comes with ublock origin preinstalled.

vikingtons@lemmy.world on 06 Jun 03:15 collapse

Thank you for the heads up!

Maeve@kbin.earth on 06 Jun 03:21 collapse

👍

WanderingCat@lemm.ee on 05 Jun 23:38 next collapse

Not OP but I’ve had it happen to me today with Firefox + ublock origin

IttihadChe@lemmy.ml on 05 Jun 23:41 collapse

It happened to me for the first time today and that’s what I use.

I literally just clicked the x and played the video so it didn’t effect anything though.

Maeve@kbin.earth on 06 Jun 03:18 collapse

I'm just wondering if they're going to do the black screen or something more sinister.

sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al on 05 Jun 18:51 next collapse

What browser are you using?

474D@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 21:00 collapse

Not OP but I get the same thing on Firefox with ublock origin

Tundra@lemmy.ml on 05 Jun 18:58 next collapse

grayjay.app/desktop/

Technoworcester@feddit.uk on 06 Jun 12:43 collapse

Is it less buggy now? I tried it a while back and gave up.

Mobile app is awesome though.

Tundra@lemmy.ml on 06 Jun 13:20 collapse

yeah they have a flatpak now, I should of directly linked to that:

flathub.org/apps/app.grayjay.Grayjay

Technoworcester@feddit.uk on 06 Jun 13:23 collapse

Awesome. Thanks for that, will have a look later.

Tundra@lemmy.ml on 06 Jun 14:23 collapse

no worries, have a good day

SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works on 05 Jun 19:14 next collapse

You can hit the x and continue. This just a stern warning with no consequence for now

Technoworcester@feddit.uk on 06 Jun 12:42 collapse

This.

I get this pop up once or twice every couple of months maybe? I just click through and nothing happens / changes.

For mobile I use the grayjay app.

MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de on 05 Jun 19:35 next collapse

VPN to Europe? Otherwise not sure how the UK was ever “safe” from this.

RedSnt@feddit.dk on 05 Jun 20:19 collapse

VPN to Albania or Monaco since they don’t have ads on youtube at all.

jherazob@beehaw.org on 06 Jun 16:06 collapse

First i hear of it, is there some sort of diplomatic situation that leads to this?

RedSnt@feddit.dk on 06 Jun 17:38 collapse

Not sure. I always just thought it was due to laws in those countries.
In the case of Albania it seems that it’s just as simple as youtube not being present in the country at all, and that Albania has just been allowed access to youtube despite being a money drain and them not helping pay for server costs via ads.

verdigris@lemmy.ml on 05 Jun 20:25 next collapse

You just close the window. I’ve seen this twice in the last three years and never experienced any actual change – still no ads or even black screens where ads should be.

LordWiggle@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 21:26 next collapse

Grayjay.app

Rodneyck@lemm.ee on 05 Jun 21:29 next collapse

Freetube on my PC and devices, Smartube for Fire TV.

Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 21:41 next collapse

You can block element on that pop-up with uBlock Origin, and it starts working again.

If you can’t click anything, there’s a transparent layer still in the way, so you may need to do a second block element (click anywhere and the entire screen should highlight).

Weird side effect is that the scroll stops working sometimes, but if you make the video full screen then back it fixes it.

DarkSirrush@lemmy.ca on 06 Jun 00:10 next collapse

There are a few browser extensions that force a scrollbar even on pages its disabled if you need to work around it.

Though not being able to scroll down to YouTube comments should be considered a blessing.

brachypelmasmithi@lemm.ee on 06 Jun 15:51 collapse

for anyone interested:

the scroll not working is most likely due to the main container in the page (usually the <body> tag but it can be some other element) having the overflow: hidden CSS property assigned to it.

overflow dictates the behavior of an element that has its content overflow past the parent element’s boundaries.

the property can have four values:

  • visible, where the overflow is fully visible and allowed to extend past the parent element,
  • scroll, which clips the overflowing content and allows the user to scroll the parent element,
  • hidden, which clips the overflowing content and prevents scrolling, and
  • auto, which works almost identically to scroll

most sites run a script that assigns this property with the value of hidden to the <body> tag, making the user unable to scroll the page.

ive seen this behavior the most with sites that blast you with an unavoidable cookie banner which you have to click through to access the page. usually removing the cookie banner element is not enough to freely access the page, and so you have to additionally find which element has its overflow set to hidden and disable that property.

i reckon youtube’s adblocker popup is doing the same thing, and coincidentally turning off fullscreen also runs a script that makes sure the overflow is set to either scroll or auto

Manmoth@lemmy.ml on 06 Jun 17:06 next collapse

I always wondered how this worked.

Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world on 06 Jun 23:40 collapse

It feels strangely vindicating when symptoms that just look like ‘a weird bug’ to my dumb ass actually make sense to folks who know what they’re doing.

Thanks for the insight!

salvor_hardin@lemmy.ml on 05 Jun 21:53 next collapse

I use pipe pipe on android, haven’t had any issues and works great. Freetube on the PC, works great!

Coelacanth@feddit.nu on 05 Jun 22:54 next collapse

PipePipe my beloved. Never had any problems with it either.

rumba@lemmy.zip on 06 Jun 14:23 collapse

Woot woot, added that to my arsenal.

Vanced, new pipe, free tube, tubular, pipe pipe, mobile brave, yt-dlp->jellyfin, laptop->HDMI splitter-> capture card +comskip

The spice will flow.

Thebigguy@lemmy.ml on 05 Jun 22:04 next collapse

Technically side loading apps should be legal now on iOS in the EU are there any iOS players?

Luffy879@lemmy.ml on 05 Jun 22:16 next collapse

No. Neither is sideloading allowed by Apple, since you still need to pay the 99€ a year to sign your Apps, nor do such players exist because the people who know how to do such stuff have better things to do than spend 2000€ for a MacBook just so some Apple users can usw YouTube for a week before their Dev license gets suspended

And I hate to be that guy, but if you want to own what you paid for, you maybe shouldn’t keep pouring Water in form of your money onto the Oil fire that is Apple.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=DBBY9fW74yM

Thebigguy@lemmy.ml on 05 Jun 23:04 collapse

support.apple.com/en-gb/117767

Oh I just read that and assumed there might be something seeing as iPhones are pretty popular phones. I just bought this phone 2 years ago and I’ll probably keep using it till it breaks or stops getting security updates. I don’t really care about phones or computers and will probably go back to a dumb phone once this one breaks.

Sustolic@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 23:39 collapse

The brave browser is a pretty good option on iOS, it has a good Adblock and it has support for background audio (assuming you enable it in the browsers settings)

It is one of the only browsers on iOS that I know of that has support for both, meaning you can use it to listen to YouTube music with no ads and with the screen off.

Thebigguy@lemmy.ml on 06 Jun 05:31 collapse

Idk the brave dude is weird af

noxypaws@pawb.social on 06 Jun 19:13 collapse

Brendan Eich personally donated money to the campaign which successfully banned same-sex marriage in California. That alone makes him and anything that potentially earns him money off limits for me. Thankfully he’s no longer at Mozilla

Thebigguy@lemmy.ml on 06 Jun 19:16 collapse

Yeah homophobia is lame

Pondis@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 22:48 next collapse

Incognito mode works, but you can’t see the history

airikr@lemmy.ml on 05 Jun 23:06 next collapse

Use a front-end like Piped or Invidious and be happy.

Negative comments and dislikes incoming in 3, 2, 1…

Dragonborn3810@lemmy.world on 05 Jun 23:16 collapse

Why do you think you’ll be downvoted for that? I see people recommend them literally all the time on similar posts

airikr@lemmy.ml on 05 Jun 23:25 collapse

Firstly. People don’t like Piped or Invidious because they often gets broken due to Google’s work to try shut them down completely.

Invidious is basically all broken already because of this. And it can be hard to find a good Piped instance that works.

I have Piped installed on my server and it happens that I get “login to prove you’re not a bot” or what the error message is.

And secondly. People tend to be very mean online and I don’t trust any people until they have proven they are indeed nice and not mean in any way (like judging or trolling).

Lastly. I am in a very bad mood which boosting the second reason.

Dragonborn3810@lemmy.world on 07 Jun 12:41 collapse

Ah alright that makes sense. (Also just to make sure, wasn’t meaning any like rudeness in my reply, im autistic so if I did sorry)

airikr@lemmy.ml on 07 Jun 15:02 collapse

You were not rude to me. You asked a simple question, that’s it :) I’m autistic too.

unknown1234_5@kbin.earth on 06 Jun 02:30 next collapse

had the same thing happen today, unlock origin doesn't work anymore. wish they hadn't killed the speedup one bc that compromise works perfect (IMO).

voidspace@lemmy.world on 06 Jun 06:34 next collapse

Yep. Got this yesterday (UK).

Korhaka@sopuli.xyz on 06 Jun 14:34 collapse

I had a couple of adverts make it through yesterday in the UK, just closed the tab and went to some locally hosted content instead. Seems like its working again today. I don’t log into youtube at all.

thericcer@reddthat.com on 06 Jun 06:51 next collapse

Content isn’t free…

Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works on 06 Jun 07:21 next collapse

Google is doing fine. They don’t need more funds.

xzot746@sh.itjust.works on 06 Jun 07:36 collapse

Right like poor Google, they’re raking billions and billions from gathering user data and selling it, but line must go up and the “it costs money folks” are too naive to understand what’s really happening.

You go you naive fool, help Google increase they’re worth. They need all the help they can get, maybe donate, for just the cost of a coffee a day a month can save a multi billion dollar corporation.

Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works on 06 Jun 12:09 collapse

Ahh, how could I forget the start of every elementary school day.

I pledge allegiance, to the Brand ™️ , that best represents my interests. And to the echo chamber, where I get my ideas,

Etc etc

FooBarrington@lemmy.world on 06 Jun 07:51 next collapse

I’d be fine with ads if it were one every couple videos, but these days YT serves as much/more ad content than the amount of time the video is running, and on top of that many videos contain ads themselves. That’s simply too much.

Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works on 06 Jun 13:20 collapse

I kind of agree with you, but I think some people should just stop using Youtube if they hate so many things around it.

Peertube is great and I love supporting creators through Patreon.

Tilgare@lemmy.world on 06 Jun 12:43 collapse

Nobody wants to acknowledge this truth and it drives me insane. YouTube piracy hurts small creators. How you feel about this moral quandary is entirely up to you, but this is just a fact.

Sivilian@lemmy.zip on 06 Jun 07:05 next collapse

Firefox + uBlock Origin or Grayjay are my go to.

ohshit604@sh.itjust.works on 06 Jun 07:32 next collapse

Invidious or Piped.

Use a public instance or self host your own. Pair it with Freetube and you can skip in-video sponsorships/ads.

While YouTube has been making it difficult for these services to stay alive they seem to alway work around them.

LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee on 06 Jun 08:15 next collapse

I use freetube without anything but the issue is that my VPN is blocked now, and a self hosted invidious or piped won’t help with that, right? I imagine I’m going to need some kind of split for the VPN, where some apps don’t use VPN.

But even freetube is somewhat clumsy for queueing videos and proper theater mode without borders. Using Youtube is becoming more and more cumbersome lol.

I wish there was a simple executable that pre-downloads and buffers my youtube channel videos and then just launches an optimized local web server that has good UX.

ohshit604@sh.itjust.works on 06 Jun 13:59 next collapse

but the issue is that my VPN is blocked now, and a self hosted invidious or piped won’t help with that, right?

If I’m not mistaken this is incorrect, when you self host Invidious you also must host their companion tool to help skirt around YouTube’s blocking system.

docs.invidious.io/installation/#linux

You have to run this command on the same public IP address as the one blocked by YouTube. Not necessarily the same machine, just the same public IP address.
You will need to copy these two parameters in the config.yaml file.
Subsequent usage of this same token will work on the same IP range or even the same ASN. The point is to generate this token on a blocked IP as “unblocked” IP addresses seems to not generate a token valid for passing the checks on a blocked IP.

Documentation here is a bit outdated but I assume this is how it still works, just automated without the need to manually run their commands.

LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee on 06 Jun 14:22 collapse

Huh, thanks. I don’t quite understand it but I guess a token makes sense. Similar to how I can use reddit with VPN when logged in, but not without. I don’t even have a youtube account any more though since they forcibly degoogled me by demanding my phone number.

rumba@lemmy.zip on 06 Jun 14:14 collapse

We’ll get there eventually. Google will just have to finish cracking down on DRM.

Brave will probably need to stop working before we finally put that much effort into it.

PC plus HDMI capture device plus com skip. You can’t stop us but man you can make it painful.

finix_the_psyker@sopuli.xyz on 06 Jun 18:56 collapse

Also Newpipe for mobile. You can find it on f-droid.

muusemuuse@lemm.ee on 06 Jun 08:33 next collapse

AdGuard on Mac for safari, unlock origin for anything other than chrome.

rpa@europe.pub on 06 Jun 13:26 next collapse

I got this with Firefox + uBlock Origin yesterday but was gone a couple videos later, uBlock must have updated.

OldChicoAle@lemmy.world on 06 Jun 17:58 next collapse

Doesn’t YouTube premium still have ads?

anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 06 Jun 18:17 next collapse

Others have already weighed in, but:

This warning doesn’t seem to be persistent. Using ublock/regularly clearing cookies seems to keep this at bay. Sometimes it helps to open new links in container tabs as well.

I got this earlier this week and clearing my cookies/using container tabs seems to reset it.

Horse@lemmygrad.ml on 06 Jun 18:21 next collapse

this happens for a short time about every six months
if you haven’t already, make sure ublock is updated, then toggle “quick fixes” (if it’s on, turn it off, if it’s off, turn it on)

Psythik@lemm.ee on 06 Jun 18:27 next collapse

I’ve been using Firefox With Ublock Origin (and YouTube ReVanced for mobile) for years, and have yet to see this message outside of a screenshot.

noxypaws@pawb.social on 06 Jun 19:11 next collapse

I saw this with firefox and ublock origin installed. Dismissed it and continued not seeing any ads.

Mesophar@pawb.social on 06 Jun 23:07 collapse

I just refresh the page and it works fine

Jhex@lemmy.world on 06 Jun 23:21 collapse

I got one 2 days ago, refreshed and it went away (FireDragon with ublock)

It actually pushed me further, I now browse Youtube logged out and disabled every piece of tracking i could find