Do you use you card for payments in sandboxed Google play?
from ObliviousOwl@lemmy.one to degoogle@lemmy.ml on 01 Sep 2023 07:15
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I have been hesitant to add my card because of privacy. I particular the fact that my card is linked to my email. What is your take on it?

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thecam@lemmy.world on 01 Sep 2023 07:20 next collapse

Cash is better than a card. And you can use Monero on any online store that takes crypto by using a swap service.

Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today on 01 Sep 2023 07:22 next collapse

Like adding it to google pay? Or do you mean for electronic payments in a profile with sandboxed google play services?

ObliviousOwl@lemmy.one on 01 Sep 2023 09:17 collapse

I mean for electronic payments. But I would also be interested in knowing how you solve gpay in a privacy oriented way?

Extrasvhx9he@lemmy.today on 01 Sep 2023 12:23 collapse

Oh just because sandboxed google services is installed doesnt mean your payment info is shared between different applications/websites assuming proper encryption on their end. If you want to improve your privacy for electronic payments like others said monero is best but since thats not widely used yet a card masking service is what you want for now. However you’ll be relying on a third party, privacy.com is what the majority use afaik. As for gpay, privacy from google is basically nonexistent, obviously, but if you mean privacy from merchants then they already mask your card information for transactions iirc. I suggest either using a card masking service, another electronic money service such as paypal (shit privacy but you wont be tied to google), or even using a prepaid visa gift card or giftcards in general paid in cash at your local drugstore.

Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 01 Sep 2023 08:17 next collapse

Buy monero with monero buy google gift card

baked_tea@sh.itjust.works on 01 Sep 2023 08:26 next collapse

How much money value do you lose in this process?

rambos@lemm.ee on 01 Sep 2023 09:29 next collapse

I was buying 1 month of VPN for 5€, but it cost me almost 20€ with all fees (I think it was ethereum) 😂 monero might be better, but small crypto transactions make no sense afaik

Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 01 Sep 2023 10:34 collapse

I do not know, but anonymity costs. Bitcoin is a lot cheaper at least for small amounts (idrk how monero works so no idea for large amounts) but not anonymous and not all that fast in transactions.

yetAnotherUser@feddit.de on 01 Sep 2023 15:01 collapse

Just buy the cards with cash? They’re probably at every other store.

Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 01 Sep 2023 17:09 collapse

Cash is much more tracable than monero if you know how to use it properly. I was talking about full anonymity.

yetAnotherUser@feddit.de on 01 Sep 2023 17:53 collapse

It’s borderline impossible to trace cash. There’s a reason money laundering is pretty successful. And if you’re completely paranoid, pay with coins. These will never be tracked unless you happen to commit enough serious crimes to have a team of agents track you 24/7.

Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 01 Sep 2023 18:46 collapse

Which does not negate my statement :)

yetAnotherUser@feddit.de on 01 Sep 2023 19:05 collapse

Then again, if you’re targeted like this you probably have a keylogger installed, negating any and all privacy benefits of Monero.

Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 01 Sep 2023 23:46 collapse

Someone can not simply “install a keylogger” on any device. As log as they don’t have access to the device,/you’re good. They might have acces to your bank account though so they know which bank notes have been taken out of the bank by their ID. That ID can be prfectly traced if you buy in a store as that store just puts the notes back into a bank. Idk why it’s so hard for you to understand that physical access to anything is a horror for anonymity. Our devices allow us to be at any place in the world and you decide to go to an ATM and your local supermarket. It’s not just easier and quicker, it’s also not tracable.

elbarto777@lemmy.world on 18 Sep 2023 01:07 collapse

“Hey Mr coffee barista, can you break this $20 in two $10 for me? Thanks!”

Bam. Untraceable.

Sparkega@sh.itjust.works on 01 Sep 2023 09:28 next collapse

I recommend using Privacy.com to create virtual credit cards that withdraw directly from a bank account. I see it as a VPN for credit card purchases. For US customers only, but obscures payment info to merchants.

You can use a bogus name and address for the merchant billing information (in this case Google Play).

Oha@lemmy.ohaa.xyz on 01 Sep 2023 14:26 next collapse

Anything like that service for EU users?

Sparkega@sh.itjust.works on 01 Sep 2023 18:05 collapse

Not that I’m aware of. A basic search didn’t turn up anything promising.

ObliviousOwl@lemmy.one on 01 Sep 2023 22:49 collapse

Sadly I am not from the US

WhoRoger@lemmy.world on 01 Sep 2023 13:34 next collapse

Just get gift cards.

brambledog@infosec.pub on 05 Sep 2023 01:04 next collapse

Being married and getting paid opposite weeks, gpay is essentially the only google offering I am in no hurry to break free from.

Though it would be nice to see competition in the space.

MotherFlocker@jlai.lu on 11 Sep 2023 12:16 collapse

If I must, then I would just keep an old phone with google, which never leaves home or wherever I keep it.