Bitwarden 2026 Data Privacy Week survey results
from yodeljunkmanenvy@piefed.social to degoogle@lemmy.ml on 12 Feb 14:52
https://piefed.social/c/degoogle/p/1769737/bitwarden-2026-data-privacy-week-survey-results

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Source: bitwarden.com/blog/data-privacy-day/

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ItsMyVault101@piefed.social on 12 Feb 16:09 next collapse

Do you need an account to use Proton VPN?

Alb@sh.itjust.works on 12 Feb 17:34 next collapse

Yes but it is free (email address) with an acces to 5 countries (Netherlands, Romania, Japan and 2 others i never used). To extend it worldwide you have to subscribe to a premium account.

smeg@feddit.uk on 12 Feb 17:35 next collapse

You do not

ItsMyVault101@piefed.social on 12 Feb 23:50 collapse

I was asking because I used Mullvad in the past and I love the fact that not even they know who you are because to them you are just a random generated number, which occasionally gets 5€ deposited.

smeg@feddit.uk on 13 Feb 00:27 collapse

You can use a free or paid account but some time last year (I think) they also made it so you can use it without even logging in (on android at least)

XLE@piefed.social on 12 Feb 18:26 collapse

If you download it from the FDroid store, yes. If you download it from the Google Play Store, no.

(I just tested this to make sure, because I know it sounds weird.)

HubertManne@piefed.social on 12 Feb 19:44 next collapse

ok so if you do it through google play it uses your google account I assume with like something like saml.

ItsMyVault101@piefed.social on 12 Feb 23:42 next collapse

so either way is Mullvad VPN much more privacy focused, because there you just generate a random number and to this number you deposit money, no need for any credentials.

pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip on 13 Feb 08:22 collapse

why Proton??

Samsy@lemmy.ml on 12 Feb 16:39 next collapse

Can’t believe people always use this crypto-spam browser.

hellfire103@lemmy.ca on 12 Feb 17:41 next collapse

Well, it does do a fantastic job of removing ads and reducing fingerprinting.

Samsy@lemmy.ml on 12 Feb 19:12 collapse

So does Librewolf. What’s the benefit of brave? Chrome-based? Checked chromium from time to time and don’t think chrome is superior over Firefox.

hellfire103@lemmy.ca on 12 Feb 19:56 next collapse

Neither do I. I use Mullvad Browser, which is based on Firefox.

Brave has its own content blocking system, which is on-par with uBO and better than uBO Lite. I tested it myself a while back, and Cover Your Tracks, Fingerprint.com, and CreepJS indicated that it was incredibly difficult to fingerprint: moreso than Librewolf, but slightly less so than Tor/Mullvad.

That said, however, PrivacyTests.org indicates that Librewolf blocks more tracking technologies than Brave, so it’s possible things have changed since I last experimented with browsers other than Tor and Mullvad.

Sustolic@lemmy.world on 12 Feb 20:39 next collapse

WebHID support which some webapp configuration tools need to function

pineapple@lemmy.ml on 12 Feb 22:34 collapse

Chromium is generally more secure than firefox.

prenatal_confusion@feddit.org on 13 Feb 04:13 collapse

Sources?

pineapple@lemmy.ml on 13 Feb 05:21 collapse

Wow I got downvoted a lot on that I thought it was a generally agreed upon fact. Source (graphene os)

I still use firefox btw because I prefer it for many other reasons but chromium is definetely more secure.

pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip on 13 Feb 08:13 next collapse

GraphaneOS founder has fetish for Chromium and he hates F-Droid 1

tldr: he accuse f-droid not being secure and citing this bs post privsec.dev/posts/…/f-droid-security-issues/ and he promotes accrescent.app

  • they contain closed-source app
  • they have very flawed understanding of open-source and security 2, 3

here is some examples:

Open source doesn’t necessarily mean more secure. I’m aware of many open source apps with numerous well-known security vulnerabilities, as well as many closed-source apps that are highly secure. Furthermore, Accrescent will have a filter to, for example, show only open source apps, so your treatment is incomprehensible.

Accrescent doesn’t claim to serve only open-source apps and never has out of the belief that an app’s source model doesn’t inherently make it more or less private or secure. Qlango doesn’t violate any explicit or implicit Accrescent policy by the properties you listed, so it would be inappropriate to remove it.

…In addition, “trackers” are subjective. Accrescent has no plans to enumerate specific libraries or classes and blacklist them solely based on the fact that they connect to Google, Amazon, etc.; collect analytics; or contain proprietary code. This approach isn’t scalable anyway because it is trivial to bypass such detection methods.

So I take everything GraphaneOS says with a grain of salt

Stilic@lemmy.ml on 13 Feb 15:39 next collapse

Can you stop spreading FUD? This almost feels like a pointless attack on someone who haven’t asked anything… Already that were targeted with harassment…

XLE@piefed.social on 13 Feb 19:11 next collapse

Dan Micay is infamous for false and baseless accusations leveled at other groups of people, including everybody from Louis Rossman to the Calyx and F-Droid teams. If making verifiable statements is considered harassment, how much more harassment has he been doing?

Stilic@lemmy.ml on 17 Feb 14:51 collapse

They always give their sources and justify their statements when necessary. This is just saying stupid shit in bad faith and helps nobody.

XLE@piefed.social on 17 Feb 15:06 collapse

And Micay is especially guilty of that himself. Here he is libeling/slandering/attacking the F-Droid team, accusing them of coordinated raid.

https://x.com/DanielMicay/status/1497625862409175041
https://archive.is/o7Mdg https://archive.is/1iSi1

Tweet’s still up.

Stilic@lemmy.ml on 17 Feb 15:27 collapse

I don’t see any slander there.

They were clearly being unfairly treated.

XLE@piefed.social on 17 Feb 15:40 collapse

Where is the evidence of this so-called coordinated raid? It’s not in this Tweet. Without evidence, this is the exact same kind of baseless coordinated FUD attack that he accuses others of.

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pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip on 13 Feb 21:39 collapse

ok troll I’m debunking your whole operation this is not shithub you can’t have a free hand here

lemmy.zip/post/59060122

Edit: Added fresh link with many more proof

Stilic@lemmy.ml on 17 Feb 14:41 next collapse

I have nothing to do with this so-called “disinformation campaign”. Regardless, the post you linked is also an example of harassment. You sound like a conspirationist and that’s enough for me to stop trusting anything you say.

Stilic@lemmy.ml on 17 Feb 15:30 collapse

Stop it there. I see where your little game is going. Don’t even try to virtue-signal yourself anymore. It failed immediately. lemmy.zip/post/59056692

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works on 16 Feb 18:54 collapse

daniel micay:

You’re well aware that the CalyxOS / F-Droid community has made multiple attempts at having me killed through severe swatting attacks

holy shit that’s batshit crazy. is there any proof this actually happened?

pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip on 16 Feb 21:05 collapse

You can check their disinformation campain lemmy.zip/post/59060122

prenatal_confusion@feddit.org on 13 Feb 10:20 collapse

One source from a sadly biased author. I am honestly too lazy to aggregate some numbers for CVEs to find out what’s the truth but I am sure that it is not an inherent quality of chromium to be more secure.

Stilic@lemmy.ml on 13 Feb 15:42 next collapse

He’s not biased FYI he’s a well known expert in his own field… And he’s right Here’s additional proof too: github.com/RKNF404/…/BROWSER_SELECTION.md#firefox

Adeptus_Obsoletus@piefed.social on 14 Feb 19:38 collapse

but I am sure that it is not an inherent quality of chromium to be more secure.

Oh, come on, this is a well-know fact and it has been that way for years, although it’s slowly changing. It took years for Firefox site isolation to come to Android, and even on desktops, the actual sandbox improvements to try to make it on par with Chromium came last month… It’s really disingenuous to write off the entire post, claiming the author is biased while not even trying to fight the arguments he made on that website.

XLE@piefed.social on 12 Feb 17:55 next collapse

Brave and Firefox are very competitive when it comes to pushing unnecessary “features” on their users. (Remember when Mozilla bought an NFT and AI company to put a shopping toolbar in their browser?)

megopie@beehaw.org on 12 Feb 23:20 collapse

Comparing brave and fire fox is like comparing librewolf and chrome. When people suggest using a privacy browser other than brave, they’re not saying “just use fire fox”.

XLE@piefed.social on 12 Feb 23:25 collapse

I’m just speaking on the two most popular browsers according to the survey - LibreWolf is in a league of its own for sure.

superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 12 Feb 20:42 next collapse

I use it to pirate sports streams and thats pretty much it. It just works better than Firefox for some reason.

JayGray91@piefed.social on 13 Feb 11:43 collapse

Probably because it’s chromium based and the sites are chromium optimized

That’s my opinion at least

pineapple@lemmy.ml on 12 Feb 22:34 collapse

Same, I was surprised brave is so popular.

Valarie@lemmygrad.ml on 13 Feb 23:04 collapse

I use it for school shit because they don’t work with iceraven(my preferred mobile Firefox fork)

digital_digger@lemmy.world on 12 Feb 17:35 next collapse

Why is Thunderbird listed with proton mail, tuta and fastmail?

hellfire103@lemmy.ca on 12 Feb 17:40 collapse

They are a provider as well as a client now.

digital_digger@lemmy.world on 12 Feb 17:43 next collapse

Interesting. So you can actually create a Thunderbird email address?

sunnytimes@lemmy.ca on 12 Feb 18:35 collapse
XLE@piefed.social on 12 Feb 17:57 collapse

Do you think the statistics are representative of the overall userbase? To me, this suggests recency bias (or maybe people who misunderstood the question, because it made me do a double-take too). Either way, Thunderbird using its established branding and reputation is a great move.

pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip on 13 Feb 09:09 collapse

I think Firefox’s usage is more, Proton Mail is less, Addy.io is more, DuckDuckGo Email Alias is less, DuckDuckGo search usage is more, Matrix is more (btw Matrix is not app :D), Bitwarden is less, Obsidian is more (unfortunately it’s closed-source), uBO is more, Windscribe is more, AI usage is more

meldrik@lemmy.wtf on 13 Feb 01:05 next collapse

Matrix is the protocol. Element is the client and just one of many.

Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml on 13 Feb 02:44 next collapse

I’m considering swapping from Proton Mail to Fastmail. The fact that it allows 3-year subscriptions is good (I’d prefer a lifetime plan but I understand why that’s a non-starter), the fact that it’s based local to me is good too.

EDIT: I wish it also at least offered a rolling 3-year subscription.

ne0phyte@feddit.org on 13 Feb 10:50 next collapse

+1 for Fastmail

Since anything but fully on-device encrypted/decrypted mails is still inherently insecure due to being unable to control the receiving end I consider email an insecure medium by default.

That was my reason to go with fastmail when I moved away from Gmail a couple of years ago and I am very happy with their service and apps. I am also paying three years at a time and would like to pay even further ahead of time, but what can you do.

I tried proton but didn’t like being locked into using their apps or hosting the SMTP bridge at which point I might as well use a less secure approach to begin with that is more comfortable to use.

portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 13 Feb 21:43 collapse

Fastmail is hosted in Australia which has some iffy privacy laws thst may affect fadtmail (although fastmail won’t sell your data at least) …sites.k-hosting.co.uk/showthread.php?s=23fc90acb…

I have moved to mailbox.org which has been great too. Just offering an alternative in case you are interested in a European host

pfr@piefed.social on 13 Feb 21:58 next collapse

Same. I moved from FM to Posteo (which is very cheap) AND Tuta. I use both email services for different uses. Tuta for more personal stuff like banking, medical, official gvt stuff like tax, vehicle registration etc. anything that requires my full identity. Then Posteo and Addy.io together for everything else. I never use my main posteo email address, I create aliases for everything. Am three services is only slightly more expensive than FM in total, but I feel it’s a much more secure setup

Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml on 14 Feb 07:26 next collapse

In terms of escaping targeted government surveillance, Australia is not the country to be in. If the Australian government is targeting you, there’s no escape.

In terms of escaping mass surveillance and of keeping your personal information private, Australia isn’t that bad. Simply the fact gmail is allowed to operate in the country means it isn’t great either though.

Strengthening privacy laws around rental property applications is currently the main privacy concern for me, and recent state law changes have marginally improved that.

nmrb@lemmy.zip on 17 Feb 05:26 collapse

I also made the switch to mailbox after trying out proton and tuta. I have no regrets with the decision after a year in.

Ignoranceisnotabliss@lemmy.ml on 13 Feb 07:52 next collapse

Survey shows that majority don’t know what they are doing

mlg@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 09:55 next collapse

You know I just remembered that no one actually confirmed whether DuckDuckGo wasn’t just a honeypot for the NSA because it didn’t become big until after thr Snowden leaks lol.

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works on 16 Feb 21:20 collapse

well I still don’t get how are they legitimately funding their services, even before they started running their free AI chat proxy.

ScreaminOctopus@sh.itjust.works on 13 Feb 12:08 next collapse

Surprised privacy conscious people are so pro obsidian when it’s not even source available

JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl on 13 Feb 13:35 next collapse

Probably because it is all portable and in markdown, the devs are widely available and it is open enough that community, open source plugins can be easily made which allow you to make custom workflows that simply aren’t available in any alternatives.

Linking is significantly easier and better than any alternative I have tried which significantly lowers the effort of documentation which is the largest hurdle for most people. As all social media shit apps have taught us, ultra low-effort beginning of a habit is the key to consistent use.

And if the dev enshittifies, all of your notes are safe in plaintext markdown and not a proprietary format and can be imported and cleaned up in your choice of new editor and fix the linking.

holomorphic@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 13:35 collapse

It keeps my data in plain text files, integrates well with git and simply does the most things I always wanted a note taking application to do, when compared with anything else I have tried so far.

Yes, I would be happier with an open source application, but the first two are hard requirements for me, which already removes the majority of the alternatives.

On the other hand, I will never understand why anyone would use brave, given how shady the thing is.

Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 13 Feb 14:54 next collapse

Just use nVIM

holomorphic@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 15:10 collapse

Does support internal links, md rendering and a useful search over all files without having to configure everything for three weeks? Because those features were what made me switch after a few years of just using vim.

Also having dynamic todo boxes on my daily notes, collected from all my ~1k notes.

Those are actual questions, not sarcasm, btw. I have never used nvim. I was under the impression it was more or less just vim.

velxundussa@sh.itjust.works on 13 Feb 16:09 next collapse

It doesn’t quite fit your requirements, but org mode from emacs is very close.

.org files instead of .md, and the preview does require a bit of config, but it’s not as bad as some make it be, especially if you pickup a preconfigured emacs “distro” (like doom emacs for example) in which case I think it’s just a feature flag to set to on.

Org is also very appreciated for it’s TODO features, which you seem to make a big use of.

It probably isn’t a match for you due to the markdown requirement, but I’m mentioning it just in case you didn’t consider it in the past.

holomorphic@lemmy.world on 13 Feb 16:24 collapse

Thanks for the recommendation. I knew org-mode exists, but I’ve only ever used emacs for proof-assistants which have no other ide-support. I guess I should at least give it a try.

Manmoth@lemmy.ml on 13 Feb 20:52 collapse

Emacs supports whatever you want and more with org-mode. It’s an upfront investment but you can use your config until you die.

CrackedLinuxISO@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 13 Feb 21:19 collapse

Ever used org-roam? It’s org-mode plus obsidian features. Absolutely love it.

Manmoth@lemmy.ml on 14 Feb 03:51 collapse

Yeah I should have said it explicitly but that’s what I was referring to. I have an org-mode / org-roam setup.

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works on 16 Feb 21:16 collapse

what about logseq? It’s very similar, but open source

Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de on 14 Feb 08:35 collapse

How can Thunderbird be the third favourite Email service, when it’s not even an email service? It’s a mail user agent.

Or do they mean the Thundermail service available in the Thunderbird Pro Subscription?

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works on 16 Feb 21:15 collapse

thunderbird has a mail service now, but I find it weird because it’s still a pretty new service