Voice Chat Alternative from Discord
from PyreWinterflare@lemmy.world to degoogle@lemmy.ml on 15 Feb 12:04
https://lemmy.world/post/43160007

I’m looking to avoid using Discord for voice calls… I’ve always had gripes with it over the years but I’m fed up lol.

I need a stable voice call app that is cross platform (needs to work on Windows/Android/iOS). That’s it. No screen sharing necessary.

I do my best to use Signal for texts, but my mutuals only care for so much…

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bluemoon@piefed.social on 15 Feb 12:22 next collapse

Mumble is the unsung original that Discord obscured

it’s free libre open source

PyreWinterflare@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 12:26 next collapse

I saw that they had unofficial builds for their mobile clients (with iOS being unmaintained since 2017) and the android one being an F-Droid repo. Have you had experiences with either?

bluemoon@piefed.social on 15 Feb 13:39 collapse

i’ve used the android one a bit

idk iOS shoots customers in the foot

Coelacanth@feddit.nu on 15 Feb 13:09 collapse

Mumble has great voice quality and if all you want is VoIP then yes, it’s a great option.

Unfortunately it can’t replace all the other things Discord does. Also it is too cumbersome to use for mass adoption, I think.

bluemoon@piefed.social on 15 Feb 13:38 next collapse

no wtf? it has chats and channels and mod permissions

Trilogy3452@lemmy.world on 16 Feb 07:10 collapse

Screen sharing/streaming too?

PyreWinterflare@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 14:21 collapse

Personally that’s okay with me cause I don’t need much of the features.

And I plan to mainly do 1 on 1 calls with a single friend (cause I don’t think moving roughly 5-8 people will work), so not worried too much about server features

lemmyreader@lemmy.ml on 15 Feb 12:58 next collapse

Have a look at Snikket. neilzone.co.uk/…/a-month-using-xmpp-using-snikket… For iOS Siskin works fine for calls afair. siskin.im

PyreWinterflare@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 13:16 collapse

Does Snikket + XMPP require set up on my end? I’m not the most technical person so I’m worried I’ll over-complicate things for myself…

psycotica0@lemmy.ca on 15 Feb 14:38 collapse

If you self host it, yes. But Snikket the company will host the server for you for a fee if you’d prefer to just sign up online and download an app from an app store.

GeraltvonNVIDIA@lemmy.ml on 15 Feb 12:58 next collapse

Maybe Stoat/Revolt is for you. Stoat has - in my opinion - the same look and feel as discord.

It is OpenSource, selfhostable and it comes with most features discord has - excluding nitro.

There is an Android, Linux and Windows APP.

PyreWinterflare@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 13:14 next collapse

I took a look at Stoat, but they don’t have a mobile client ready unfortunately(T_T)

Thank you for the suggestiom though

GeraltvonNVIDIA@lemmy.ml on 15 Feb 13:28 next collapse

No Problem :)

I think there is an APP for all major Plattforms (Desktop and Mobile):

stoat.chat/download

iOS and Android are listed.

Or what do you mean with mobile client?

PyreWinterflare@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 14:13 next collapse

When I think of a mobile client I think of a native app (mainly in app stores) or a github for android (bit of a foss user lol)

hesh@quokk.au on 15 Feb 15:18 collapse

I can’t speak for iOS but there is a Stoat native app in the Google Play Store

fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 15 Feb 19:38 collapse

My problem with the app rn is you can’t do any moderation and there are no notifications.

gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 16 Feb 10:52 collapse

Yes they do?

PyreWinterflare@lemmy.world on 16 Feb 10:59 collapse

I saw a lot of folk saying the mobile client was still maturing, so I wasn’t 100% sure if that’s enough for just voice chat

gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 16 Feb 11:53 collapse

The mobile app is shockingly bad, and really they should tear it down and start again

gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 16 Feb 10:51 collapse

Stoat feels like it was a university project, and runs like one too.

airikr@lemmy.ml on 15 Feb 14:30 next collapse

Sharkord got released last week with a very strong foundation. I have tried it with a friend who uses Discord daily and he said “this is truly a pure clone of Discord” and I can’t do more than agreeing with him.

Despite it’s in alpha stage, I do really recommend it. Many pull requests with fast releases and the developer are very keen to make every pull request solid before releasing to the main branch.

yardratianSoma@lemmy.ca on 21 Feb 20:52 collapse

I’m going to try this one out. Just found it on selfh.st, and it almost seems too good to be true. I don’t care about massive online communities, I just want to talk with friends, and almost every other discord-like platform seems like they prefer the former.

Thanks for the praise!

brucethemoose@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 14:35 next collapse

SonoBus:

sonobus.net

It’s dead simple, free, P2P, and designed for remote music collaboration, so much lower latency than Discord. Even compression is optional and configurable, and it includes built in, tweakable filtering and gain settings.

And it works on everything. Android, iOS, desktop, all without any login. There’s a public server to start the initial connection (after which it’s purely P2P), but that’s self hostable if you wish.

It is a crime it’s so obscure. It’s basically perfect voice calling (and only voice calling), as long as everyone’s internet isn’t truly awful.

geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml on 15 Feb 16:49 next collapse

Looks cool and usable for the purpose, but the UI is very much geared towards collaborative music production with volume knobs for everyone etc.

brucethemoose@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 17:01 collapse

Yep. But in practice it’s been intuitive for everyone.

geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml on 15 Feb 20:34 collapse

Call apps usually do more than just calls though. They have chat groups and message logs, share media etc.

ApertureUA@lemmy.today on 15 Feb 21:02 next collapse

Yes, but sometimes direct P2P calls aren’t possible across borders.

PyreWinterflare@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 22:27 collapse

My friend lives in the UK while I’m based in Austral-Asia region, and I’m honestly not tech savvy enough for P2P or self hosting…

I also unfortunately don’t have the best WiFi (MediaTek on a Lenovo Laptop in the great 2026…)

brucethemoose@lemmy.world on 16 Feb 00:58 collapse

There’s nothing to it, you literally just download an app, text your friend the server name and it connects. And if you have enough bandwidth for Discord or Lemmy, this will work too.

The big caveat is if your internet is bad enough to drop packets or randomly drop out a ton, it’s going to cut your audio off. Discord would work really poorly too, but it would more aggressively auto-reconnect and buffer.

stefenauris@pawb.social on 15 Feb 14:57 next collapse

Fluxer is an open source discord clone which will be self hostable and have federation between all the servers. It’s currently in public beta

airikr@lemmy.ml on 15 Feb 15:40 collapse

Fluxer looks great! But I can’t find the documentation of how to self-host it?

QuadratureSurfer@piefed.social on 15 Feb 16:46 collapse

Current readme on their github:

I know it’s hard to resist, but please wait a little longer before you dive deep into the current codebase or try to set up self-hosting. I’m aware the current stack isn’t very lightweight. In the next update, self-hosting should be straightforward, with a small set of services: Fluxer Server (TypeScript) using SQLite for persistence, Gateway (Erlang), and optionally LiveKit for voice and video.

https://github.com/fluxerapp/fluxer

bagbrugsen@piefed.social on 15 Feb 15:45 next collapse

Fluxer is an exciting alternative to discord. But can it manage the current momentum and overwhelming traffic ? That will be even more exciting. https://fluxer.app/

jlow@discuss.tchncs.de on 15 Feb 21:51 next collapse

Signal can do voice/video calls fine? I use it all the time when gaming with friends

PyreWinterflare@lemmy.world on 15 Feb 22:22 collapse

This was my original proposal, but my friend is worried about messing up their Signal acc that could render it useless (they’ve seen me brick my laptop while installing Linux Mint…)

(They use signal on a phone, but want to use their android tablet and worried about messing up the linking device part)

Unusable3151@lemmy.ml on 16 Feb 02:21 next collapse

The Android tablet makes it a deal-breaker. You cannot use a Signal account from multiple Android or iOS devices without using a 3rd-party client like Molly.

glitching@lemmy.ml on 16 Feb 10:06 collapse

molly (a signal fork) allows linking phones and tablets as secondary devices

PyreWinterflare@lemmy.world on 16 Feb 11:01 collapse

I use Molly as my main app for Signal!! (I don’t use GMS), but considering it’s the most “tech noob friendly” option I’ve seen, I might get my friend to do that for their Android tablet

fxdave@lemmy.ml on 16 Feb 02:13 next collapse

The best I found is Miro talk. Which is P2P and working in browser.

gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 16 Feb 10:51 next collapse

fluxer.app

CanIBeFrank@sh.itjust.works on 19 Feb 07:26 collapse

TeamSpeak is the original gangster