How do you use services which only allows google login?
from ghodawalaaman@programming.dev to degoogle@lemmy.ml on 18 Apr 09:04
https://programming.dev/post/48998375

Hello,

I have decided to degoogle myself however I am wondering there are some services which I use which only allows google login. so like what can do about it? also does android run without google account?

#degoogle

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RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works on 18 Apr 09:10 next collapse

Find a different service. If you name a google service, maybe we can suggest an alternative.

Androids do not need to sign into google.

ghodawalaaman@programming.dev on 18 Apr 09:18 collapse

by looking at your profile, I think you won’t like my question. but I need google account to use lot of AI services.

RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works on 18 Apr 09:52 next collapse

I’ve been degoogled for many years. I gave Proton’s LLM, Lumo, a try. No google account required.

greendog@lemmy.zip on 18 Apr 12:52 next collapse

I second Lumo. I find it very good at compiling pretty good sources too.

decended_being@midwest.social on 18 Apr 13:54 next collapse

I think you should think about why you want to degoogle. What’s made that a priority for you?

I bet you’ll find that using LLMs contradicts those values.

victorz@lemmy.world on 18 Apr 18:03 collapse

Great point.

tgxn@lemmy.tgxn.net on 18 Apr 16:34 next collapse

I use a ton of AI services, and never once needed a Google account. Chatgpt, github copilot, perplexity, all support local/email login. there’s Duck.AI etc etc. You can use gemini via perplexity etc (got the free year with PayPal login) AI is easy but I don’t support anyone paying (real money) for it.

undefinedTruth@lemmy.zip on 18 Apr 17:10 next collapse

Why? I do use LLMs too, there is not a single service where I absolutely have to login with a Google account that I know off.

Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 18 Apr 18:50 next collapse

De-googles presumably for privacy and data security reasons

Using non self-hosted LLM services from providers that presumably are holding every bit of user input data to sell/re-purpose to have some return for their service (and want a google sign in to have an even more targeted data package oh my)

Now asking random strangers on the internet on how to pretty please get a google burner account to keep maintaining privacy away from google (despite having a trail associated with the device used to create the account along with the site’s data harvesting practices)

Now I’ve seen everything.

voxel@feddit.uk on 23 Apr 19:08 collapse

Mistral, Kagi, DuckDuckGo, Brave Leo and probably more let you all use AI services without a Google account.

ghodawalaaman@programming.dev on 24 Apr 12:11 collapse

Mistral seems promising, Thanks!

merde@sh.itjust.works on 18 Apr 09:12 next collapse

does android run without google account?

yes, but even without a boogle account most, if not all, of the android (from factory) would be making connections through google play services &c

you need a degoogled android (lineage, graphene, iode, e &c

ghodawalaaman@programming.dev on 18 Apr 09:18 collapse

yes, but even without a boogle account most, if not all, of the android (from factory) would be making connections through google play services &c but they won’t have any personal data about me right? I hope so :(

merde@sh.itjust.works on 18 Apr 13:07 collapse

play services have access to every app on your phone.

If you don’t want boogle to have your personal data, you need to nip that thing.

if you’re starting degoogling, do yourself a favor, save time and install a clean OS. Yes, you can degoogle with adb but it takes some effort and it’s never as clean and efficient as lineage or graphene.

for the time, this can help ☞
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gms
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.gsf
pm uninstall --user 0 com.google.android.ims

Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 18 Apr 09:28 next collapse

I basically don’t, but I do have a dummy google account that I use if I have to (tip, sign up to goigle cloud services, you can use any email and it makes it easier as signing up to gmail is harder sometimes)

ghodawalaaman@programming.dev on 18 Apr 09:34 collapse

Thanks for the tip. I will use my disroot account to sign up for a dummy google account using google cloud services. I think that would work. thank you so much. <img alt="" src="https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/2f8cf2fb-0648-4b59-820a-552b90d81f27.gif">

cypherpunks@lemmy.ml on 18 Apr 09:46 next collapse

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Twongo@lemmy.ml on 18 Apr 13:54 next collapse

i don’t

Snowballfighter@lemmy.ca on 18 Apr 15:18 next collapse

Alternative To was invaluable when I degoogled, not perfect though as it still lists some apps that invade and track even when you select the Privacy focused option in the search options, but it DOES give you somewhere to start from with all the info you need.

I’m currently running lineage on my phone, tablet and now working on a lineage streaming box to replace firestick. Good luck!

dudesss@lemmy.ca on 18 Apr 17:49 collapse

Also for Open Source openalternative.co

victorz@lemmy.world on 18 Apr 18:02 collapse

Ooh, nice. Thanks for that link.

forestbeasts@pawb.social on 18 Apr 21:23 next collapse

We don’t, personally.

For android, look to see if your phone can install an alternative Android build like Lineage. wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ You can get apps from F-Droid, which is a different appstore that only has open source apps and doesn’t even have accounts at all.

– Frost

voxel@feddit.uk on 23 Apr 19:05 collapse

Android works perfectly fine without a Google account, even Stock Android. Only thing you’ve to take into account is that you won’t be able to use the Play Store properly (and “Find my device” if you use it).