How to make vivaldi as private and fast as Brave?
from lopar49@lemm.ee to degoogle@lemmy.ml on 31 May 2025 17:22
https://lemm.ee/post/65511163

I am boycotting brave because of its sizeable amount of controversies and because it is American. I have decided to swap to Vivaldi but I have noticed a significant performance decrease on Speedometer 3.1 Benchmarks. Furthermore, according to EFF Cover my Tracks I now have a unique finger print and am easier to track.

My setup consists of using uBlock Origin (normal not lite) instead of Vivaldi’s built in tracker & ad blocker.

#degoogle

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mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works on 31 May 2025 17:29 next collapse

It’s not Vivaldi, but it’s not based in America and has a lot of privacy by default and there’s even more you can add on about:config and some extensions. Waterfox is fast secure and more customizable as it’s based on the Gecko engine. Which I think Vivaldi once used but I’m not 💯 on that.

github.com/BrowserWorks/Waterfox

waterfox.net/support/content-blocking/

I can’t link the Security tab in their docs but above is the second link in the directory. You can add ublock origin and set useragent as well.

alyqz@lemmy.sdf.org on 31 May 2025 18:13 next collapse

Vivaldi is the spiritual successor to the version of Opera that ran on the Presto engine, including some of the key people from back then. It has always run on Chromium with all of the baggage that comes with that. Manifest 3 and difficulty blicking autoplay videos without an extension for example.

It is possible that OP needs Chromium for some reason like sites restricting access to other browsers either intentionally, or due to incompetence. I’ve personally never been able to get any Firefox derivative to have anywhere close to as good of a user experience as out of the box Vivaldi despite my trying, though I can’t speak to Brave’s UX.

I might have to give Waterfox a try, though. Is there any word on how up to date they are with security updates, since derivative browsers tend to lack the resources to not lag behind?

mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works on 31 May 2025 20:15 collapse

Waterfox has given me zero issues, I use the useragent setting to present as chrome. There is no issue with blocking when this is done in my experience.

lopar49@lemm.ee on 01 Jun 2025 17:35 collapse

waterfox is not even faster than firefox.

Goten@piefed.social on 31 May 2025 18:35 next collapse

vivaldi would be the best browser for me (too and im boycotting too, im euro) but in there is so much shit i dont need. i have given up on firefox and its forks after 13 years...
both are chromium, so idk how they can be as fast as brave with a browser so full of "features" and less developers.

lopar49@lemm.ee on 01 Jun 2025 17:35 collapse

what browser are u using atm? vivaldi does feel wayyy to bloated

Goten@piefed.social on 01 Jun 2025 18:23 collapse

i have vivaldi, ungoogled chromium, falkon, ecosia browser and brave installed. i dont know yet which my favourite is. :)

falkon_browser@mastodon.social on 02 Jun 2025 16:22 collapse

@Goten @lopar49 choose flakon brochacho

Goten@piefed.social on 02 Jun 2025 19:29 collapse

how cool, my first interaction over 2 different eh networks! :D

foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml on 31 May 2025 18:43 next collapse

Vivaldi is a no-go for me due to these two reasons:

1- Chromium based 2- Does not respect the “open-source spirit”

merde@sh.itjust.works on 31 May 2025 20:01 next collapse

which system are you on?

lopar49@lemm.ee on 01 Jun 2025 17:34 collapse

windows

merde@sh.itjust.works on 01 Jun 2025 17:43 collapse

than try this ☞ mullvad.net/en/browser

lopar49@lemm.ee on 01 Jun 2025 18:03 collapse

I said as fast, ts is so slow

Aradia@lemmy.ml on 01 Jun 2025 13:28 next collapse

As Brave??? thelibre.news/no-really-dont-use-brave/ haha

Just use Firefox with the right addons, if you still insist on chromium then take a look to github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium

lopar49@lemm.ee on 01 Jun 2025 17:34 collapse

firefox is unuseable for me, it uses way too much ram compared to chromium browsers which have much better resource managmeent

Aradia@lemmy.ml on 02 Jun 2025 00:02 collapse

As far as I know, Chrome uses much more RAM than Firefox. Look for benchmark, Firefox keep using less RAM and being fast as Chrome, some builds even faster on the brenchmarks I read.

edit: typo

MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 01 Jun 2025 15:09 next collapse

Using ublock is probably making you much more unique.

lopar49@lemm.ee on 01 Jun 2025 17:32 collapse

how come

MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone on 01 Jun 2025 19:05 collapse

Anything you change on a browser like installing extensions makes your fingerprint change and be more unique. Especially on a browser like Vivaldi that is not doing much anti-fingerprinting as far as I know.

Librewolf is a good option if you want more privacy and don’t want to use brave.

rumba@lemmy.zip on 06 Jun 14:38 collapse

Even Vivaldi has started saying certain plugins may not work in the future because they don’t abide by Google’s best practices.

My biggest problem with Firefox is Google meet does not work well with it in Linux. It can take me over a minute to coax the video to work and some builds the audio just never works. A lot of other stuff I use works slow or just poorly in Firefox. I need OWA and PWA’s to work, keeping all of my work things together is just a really big hassle.

I primary Librerwolf, and slip over to Vivaldi or Brave when I have to have something that’s google-ish. Each of the three are loaded down with the plugins that I use regularly and bookmarks are kept synced.