LineageOS vs /e/OS?
from Monkey@piefed.social to degoogle@lemmy.ml on 07 Oct 02:51
https://piefed.social/c/degoogle@lemmy.ml/p/2460909/lineageos-vs-e-os

I am wondering what is better for both privacy AND security, I already installed Lineage but I’m fine with switching to /e/OS.
I’ve heard Lineage isn’t good for security, but I know very little about /e/OS.
The phone is a moto g power 2021 so it doesn’t support GrapheneOS.

#/e/os #degoogle #lineageos #motorola

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voxel@feddit.org on 07 Oct 03:29 next collapse

I can tell you that LineageOS is definitely good when it comes to security and data protection practices, but GrapheneOS is miles ahead by comparison due to its security preview releases and extensive hardening; LineageOS only applies monthly security patches once they’re released, and it makes good efforts to fix security vulnerabilities itself, like the VPN leak over QUIC, which Google refused to fix.

I don’t know much about /e/OS, but I personally wouldn’t recommend it if it doesn’t have anything you need. I don’t know of any security or data protection benefits it would offer over normal LineageOS. IodéOS, another LOS fork, does have some benefits, but it’s often far behind LineageOS when it comes to monthly security patches, which is concerning. I would therefore recommend sticking with LOS.

Monkey@piefed.social on 07 Oct 06:35 collapse

/e/OS has microG

Courantdair@jlai.lu on 07 Oct 10:25 next collapse

LineageOS for MicroG has it too, and it works flawlessly.

voxel@feddit.org on 07 Oct 13:01 collapse

Normal LineageOS has integrated MicroG support, you can install it via the official MicroG F-Droid repository.

github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki/Downloads

Monkey@piefed.social on 07 Oct 15:36 collapse

Thanks, I’ll try this.

custom_username@reddthat.com on 07 Oct 04:14 next collapse

Unpopular opinion: security is overrated unless you do dumb things or are a high profile target

[deleted] on 07 Oct 04:21 next collapse

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defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 07 Oct 07:55 collapse

Ultimately, saying that you don’t care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different from saying you don’t care about freedom of speech because you have nothing to say.

  • Edward Snowden
Monkey@piefed.social on 07 Oct 15:40 next collapse

It’s funny that custom_username and defaultusername are in the same thread.

eldavi@lemmy.ml on 07 Oct 19:36 collapse

its the bots that everyone things that they’re seeing on social media :p

custom_username@reddthat.com on 08 Oct 03:01 collapse

I agree with that and care very much about privacy, but for me there’s a big difference between privacy and security-it’s why I’d take an out of date linux install over freshly patched windows 11-I think that in the right use case one could argue CVEs aren’t relevant so long as they’re not being exploited. Obviously though an up to date linux/graphene/whatever install is the best of both worlds.

I think a lot of these views for me were born from an anticonsumption standpoint. Some corporation decides to stop releasing software updates for a device, on their terms, and now I’m supposed to open my wallet? Nah. I used an out of date phone for 6 years and nothing bad came of it, but again it’s down to who you are and how you use it.

defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com on 08 Oct 03:22 collapse

Which is why projects like Nura are so important, which works to bring mainline kernels to phones, both modern and outdated, so that they could (theoretically) be supported until the hardware itself dies.

You should be able to use a 20 year old phone with fully up to date software just like how you’re able to use a 20 year old laptop with modern software.

SwooshBakery624@programming.dev on 07 Oct 04:22 collapse

Copyingy my other comment here about e/os:

e/os is the worst “private” mobile OS. It is just a LineageOS with a bunch of proprietary crap. Their STT even uses OpenAI as a provider.

Also Murena founder has made some diabolical claims about exploits about how they aren’t developing their OS for “pedos”:

However, we don’t have a “hardened security” approach, we aren’t developing a phone for pedo(censored) so they can evade justice.

xcancel.com/GrapheneOS/…/2040887784253141142

Monkey@piefed.social on 07 Oct 04:33 next collapse

uses OpenAI as a provider

I would like a source, but if this is true, I’ll stick with lineage.

SwooshBakery624@programming.dev on 07 Oct 04:55 collapse

grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/114880528716479708

It seems like they’ve changed it after the backlash though.

Monkey@piefed.social on 07 Oct 05:09 collapse

Good

onlooker@lemmy.ml on 07 Oct 11:11 collapse

Just FYI, xcancel no longer works as of September of this year.

techcrunch.com/…/nitter-and-xcancel-are-dead-agai…

There are still some working Nitter instances, though: status.d420.de